View Full Version : Y omani families don't go abroad in their holidays??


fahad_404
06-07-03, 09:06 PM
Salam..
I m sure many of u have noticed that most of the people from the Gulf go for vacation outside to( london, sydney,paris,malaysia....in the summer except [SIZE=3] Omanies. very few families from Oman go 4 vacation despite the hot weather during the summer.

what do u think is the reason??????:color:

Libellula
06-07-03, 09:45 PM
There are some Omanis who go abroad, but I agree that it's very few compared to other Gulf countries.

Maybe they love Oman too much to leave?! :gap:

I think it's more of a financial thing. Omani families might not have the money to go abroad.

Ayah
06-07-03, 10:31 PM
Assalamu alikum..

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There are some who travel abroad but the most dont.. I agree that it is mostly because of financial reasons.

On the other hand, why would they go far away and spend thousands and we have more valuable places in Oman?

If people travel for a nature sight seeing then Salalah would do.

For a cool weather then Jabal Akhdhar and Jabal Shams..

For Culture then All Oman would do!

There are lots of other places too..

In addition, a big share of Omanies spend their vacations with their families in the interior after spending months working in Muscat (family bounds are more strong in Oman)

H-Highness
07-07-03, 10:13 AM
Exactly Ayah, financial could be the problem but Fahad most of the countries you have mentioned are western countries. Remember not everyone is fascinated to visit those places, I believe we have lots of places to visit here itself in Oman plus we have some closeby Arabian countries which are amazing too.

So its all depend with ones lifestyle and how they want to it to be, but hey have you seen those gulfiers, the way they behave while abroad, its UnBeLiEvEaBlE.

IceTea
07-07-03, 10:25 AM
As said by other mainly is due to financial reasons, some families work hard during the year to support themselves and it will be a waste for them to spend it on 2 weeks holiday which might cost 20 times their monthly salary!. Also the language could be a factor, not all Omani's speak english. So thats why most Omani families stay in Oman and visit other local regions like Salalah, etc.

Seham
07-07-03, 10:39 AM
Because Omanis are not 'credit card freaks' while other Gulf country Arabs are!! Kuwaities have been shown to be one of the highest 'credit card freaks' among Arabs!

Muscati
07-07-03, 12:14 PM
Just for argument's sake:

How much do you think a reasonable budget is for a vacation?

H-Highness
07-07-03, 12:31 PM
Mux

It depend with the place and someone's lifestyle.

Seham
07-07-03, 12:50 PM
Originally posted by mux
Just for argument's sake:
How much do you think a reasonable budget is for a vacation?
I think the other problem is not 'how much'.... but 'how'?

A simple example is... in the West & I think even other Gulf countries ... travel agancies can get you great deals as follows:
- if you book several months in advance you can get a really cheap offer.
- if you book in groups or as couples the offers are also very cheap.
- you get really cheap packages.
- you get student discounts etc.

However, in Oman no such thing exists! You can go to the travel agency 24 hours prior to departure or 2 months prior to departure you'll get the same price! Sometimes and very rarely you get 'acceptable offers' through Bahwan Agencies. No other agency exits in Oman they all work through Bahwan one way or another and decpite that you don't get a good deal!

3aYaR_So_MucH
07-07-03, 01:48 PM
Well it,s almost because of the finance objection ..But there are some omani families flying abroad during summer vacation ..to be honest omanis are more factual than other counteries .:D

Big MO
07-07-03, 01:50 PM
Originally posted by fahad_404

what do u think is the reason??????:color:

1. because the average wage in Oman is RO 400 per month. that's about USD1000.

2. because an average hotel room in london cost USD80 per day. the USD1000 salary will cover about 12 nights (no food, drinks, going out etc)

3. because Omanis have too many kids.

4. because we convinced ourselves that Salalah is a better holiday destination than London, Paris, KL, Sydney, Barbados etc.
the truth is it's a hell alot cheaper.

5. because we have fear of flying.

6. because we hate Seeb airport and the three shops they call duty free. we just can't stand seeing the place.

7. because there's always a cousin getting married or a grandmother dying in the summer. everyone is related in Oman.

i don't know man u pick one!!!!!!!!

Muscati
07-07-03, 01:56 PM
Originally posted by Big MO
an average hotel room in london cost USD80 per day


$80 for a hotel in London? I thought hotels are much more expensive over there. Even in the US $80 usually doesn't give you more than a motel or a 4 star room if you're lucky.

Big MO
07-07-03, 02:04 PM
Originally posted by mux
$80 for a hotel in London? I thought hotels are much more expensive over there. Even in the US $80 usually doesn't give you more than a motel or a 4 star room if you're lucky.

u'll be looking at anything between $250 to $350 for a room in a 4 star hotel.

the $80 room is shared, mainly with rats.

yah mux i agree London is an expensive place.

H-Highness
07-07-03, 02:09 PM
Seham - Totally agree with you, there's nothing as package promotion that are really attractive.

BigMO - I can agree with 1 & 2 but not the rest :D

Mux - I'm under same impression that hotel are more expensive than that but still I believe there's good bargain for backpackers, in UK

Lastly, I think travelling thru our agencies in here is too expensive, its hard for low or even middle income person to travel yearly for summer vocation outside the country.

IceTea
07-07-03, 02:36 PM
Originally posted by Big MO
5. because we have fear of flying.



I doubt it coz omani's like to fly when driving :D


Anyway what do you think the average % of Omani's going for vacation every year out of the total population, does it reach to 5 %??

3aYaR_So_MucH
08-07-03, 10:33 AM
5. because we have fear of flying.

Who mention it Does :wink:

Big MO
08-07-03, 11:16 AM
Originally posted by 3aYaR_So_MucH
Who mention it Does :wink:

you got that right. i hate heights. man god made us so we can live on the ground why go 40,000 ft high. i'm gonna stick with the natural laws of physics and stay put.

3aYaR_So_MucH
08-07-03, 11:46 AM
you got that right. i hate heights. man god made us so we can live on the ground why go 40,000 ft high. i'm gonna stick with the natural laws of physics and stay put.

I guess if were to set beside me in the B737 cockpit u would change ur mind it,s amazing specially when you approuch SIA during the sunset ... :)

Libellula
08-07-03, 12:42 PM
Originally posted by Big MO


6. because we hate Seeb airport and the three shops they call duty free. we just can't stand seeing the place.


You know what, Big MO? That might actually be an indirect reason why some people won't travel. :duh:

3aYaR_So_MucH
08-07-03, 01:36 PM
it,s sound u havn't flown abroad since age ...hence u remember Da old duty free :D

Phx ur new avatar makes me remember that D*m funny movie scary2:D

Big MO
08-07-03, 02:42 PM
Originally posted by 3aYaR_So_MucH
it,s sound u havn't flown abroad since age ...hence u remember Da old duty free :D

Phx ur new avatar makes me remember that D*m funny movie scary2:D

i saw the "new" duty free last month. it's an improvement but frankly it sucks. what kind of duty free sells big as* Nido milk containers???? the electronic section is a crime. 2 little cameras and three cd players.

I guess if were to set beside me in the B737 cockpit u would change ur mind it,s amazing specially when you approuch SIA during the sunset ...

are u a pilot or something?? cockpit!!!!!!! hmm no thanks. i'll stay on this solid ground. Bon voyage Mr.

Sleyum
08-07-03, 04:17 PM
You All Got it Wrong...
We Omanis are the best in travelling. and in Every Summer almost or 50% of the Population do Travel with whole Family Name it Father/Mother/All Children/Aunt/Cousins/Uncles.. I mean the Whole family and half the Population do GO.. If you want to check out and proove for yourself, Just Cross the Border and GO to Saudi Arabia You will find MECCA and MADINA full of Omanis there. and thats the best place to go.. and yet you keep saying We Omanis dont Travel..:D

mimosa
08-07-03, 04:27 PM
Sleyum, buddy: I've been to Saudi Arabia plenty. It is not the best place to go. In fact you'd be better off staying at home. Even if your house was on fire.

You're right that loads of Omanis travel though. Anyone who's got the money anyway. Apart from all those nice Euro destinations, half the Sabla are in Zanzibar right now!

Travel seems to have fallen a bit this summer because all those who went to the US before are now not prepared to have to wait three months for a visa or have their balls felt every five minutes when they get there. Mainland Europe is a bit better - around 2 weeks for a visa and only one kick in the nuts per country. Visitors to the UK are apparently up on last year, because it's the only Western country where you can still get a visa within 24 hours most of the time, and no gonad kicking at all unless you're rude to the immigration guy because his dad was from the Punjab.

You don't see many single Omani men in Beirut, Cairo and Casablanca though, like the other Gulfies. Maybe because Omanis can get their hookers on a day trip to Dubai without telling their parents they're going.

Sleyum
08-07-03, 06:30 PM
Mimosa You Got it all Wrong my aim of that post..
I knew a lot would make funny out of me when i mentioned that Saudia was the best place.. :D . In short we Omanis are very faithful and Almighty Allah fearful people. So instead going to Europe to involve ourself with SIN's we Go where Allah love the best and that's MECCA and MADINA..

Navigator
08-07-03, 08:18 PM
Sine the reason of travel is to see new places and break the routine ! i wiould recommend Qurayat as the best destination for ur so called vacation !!

Poorly speaking ! main reason is financial one ! we can not compare our wages to other GCC''s !

Going on vacation is something for those of high income , and they are not alot in this country !

X-press
09-07-03, 01:43 AM
Originally posted by fahad_404
...very few families from Oman go 4 vacation despite the hot weather during the summer.

what do u think is the reason??????:color:

Welcome fahad_404 as I have never seen your nick before. :)

I actually never really realized that Omanis were not really travelling, until I questioned most of the members here in regards to which countries they have visited so far. I was suprised to see that most only know the UAE and will maybe go as far as one Asian country.

It seems that it is not a habit to go on a yearly basis somewhere exotic or cultural. It is a pity as I believe there is nothing else like travelling to open someone's mind and learn about other cultures. However, I can understand that most Omanis might not be able to do it for financial reasons.

Most families here have a minimum of 6 members (father, mother and 4 kids) and their children are too small to be left behind. Taking everyone will be too costly!

I also feel that Omanis in general are not so kin to learn about other cultures as it is seen in other nationalities. They go abroad for a change of scenery and for fun, but not necessarily to learn how other nations live.

It seems Omanis like staying among themselves or among other arabs (eventually non-arab muslims), but are less kin to mix with other nationalities.

Seham
09-07-03, 10:10 AM
Originally posted by Sleyum
So instead going to Europe to involve ourself with SIN's we Go where Allah love the best and that's MECCA and MADINA.
Interesting advice from someone who has been everywhere;) ['yamoroona alnaasee be almaa3roof wa yansoon anfsahm'!!]

Originally posted by Navigator
main reason is financial one ! we can not compare our wages to other GCC''s !
Going on vacation is something for those of high income , and they are not alot in this country !..
I don't think that is true... vacations are NOT for people of high income! It is about saving money to enjoy your time at the end of the year! I think in a country like Oman ... you can hardly find anyone who knows the meaning of saving to have fun later!! They spend it all on day 1 and go for a loan on day 2 ... (listen to Shania Twain's song Ka Ching!!)

I have seen people with what is called a low income in the UK go for a holiday such as taxi drivers, toilet cleaners ... I think the salaries of these jobs are equivalent to the salaries of the general population in Oman! How come they get to go at least once a year!

Or what is quite common, too.... is you will find the husband has gone everywhere ... but his family hasn't stepped their foot to the airport.... how very selfish!

IceTea
09-07-03, 10:23 AM
Originally posted by Seham

Because Omanis are not 'credit card freaks' while other Gulf country Arabs are!! Kuwaities have been shown to be one of the highest 'credit card freaks' among Arabs!


Vs


Originally posted by Seham
I think in a country like Oman ... you can hardly find anyone who knows the meaning of saving to have fun later!! They spend it all on day 1 and go for a loan on day 2 ...


I can see some contradiction here!

H-Highness
09-07-03, 10:28 AM
Originally posted by Seham
Interesting advice from someone who has been everywhere;) ['yamoroona alnaasee be almaa3roof wa yansoon anfsahm'!!]

My sentiment Exactly


Originally posted by Seham
Or what is quite common, too.... is you will find the husband has gone everywhere ... but his family hasn't stepped their foot to the airport.... how very selfish!

Very true......I coudn't have put it better:wink:

Seham
09-07-03, 10:37 AM
Originally posted by IceTea
I can see some contradiction here! [/B]
My first post means you shouldn't use credit cards to travel because credit cards are a type of a loan! The money in the credit card is not really yours is it?! It is liquidity only and should be replaced within 50 days of use or interest starts building in just like a loan!! However, in the second post I said you should learn to save ... so you can travel.
Where is the contradiction, Mr!

H-H,
Thanx! Someone understands my point of view!

IceTea
09-07-03, 10:56 AM
Seham,

Thats not the way you put it, your first post means that Omanis don't like to spend (by any method of payment) compared to other people in the GCC and your 2nd post means that Omanis like to spend their money immediately.

Thats the way I see it, could be wrong but I doubt it!

Seham
09-07-03, 10:59 AM
I don't want to fight with you :wink:

IceTea
09-07-03, 11:03 AM
We are not fighting each other rather then discussing :)

mimosa
09-07-03, 04:18 PM
One more reason: because they are too stingy to pay OR1/day for long term parking at the airport, and the police fine them when they try to park in the departure lounge to save the long (50m) walk.

fahad_404
09-07-03, 10:00 PM
hi everyone..
well i diden't know that this topic will end up into this hot discusion and fighting .I think u also like it to be in this way:D
although most of u were supporting the idea of financial reasons as a main cause of it, i think i m more to the side of what seham said..... vacations are NOT for people of high income! It is about saving money to enjoy your time at the end of the year! I think in a country like Oman ... you can hardly find anyone who knows the meaning of saving to have fun later!!
But i don't agree with her when she said that they save money today and spend it all the next day,instead they save their money every year and never spend it 4 one single vacation in their life!!! add to that, there r so many cheap countries like Malaysia where they can go without spending even half what they save in that single year.:wink:

Navigator
10-07-03, 01:52 PM
well i diden't know that this topic will end up into this hot discusion and fighting

No fighting going here shipmate , it's a normal discusion !!



don't think that is true... vacations are NOT for people of high income! It is about saving money to enjoy your time at the end of the year!

Seham, It's about saving money yeah, but saving money by those of high income still,! How much saving you expect from someone who can hardly provide the main things of life for his family by his salery ?!!


I have seen people with what is called a low income in the UK go for a holiday such as taxi drivers, toilet cleaners ...

those taxi drivers and toilet cleaners ! from which country ?!

fahad_404
11-07-03, 10:48 PM
hi Navigator...
well i think taxi drivers and toillet cleaners are in every country, not only in Oman.and the people are divided into three classes, high income, mid-income, low income.So i don't think that the majority of omani people are of low income group!!!!!!!

dAdDy cOol mIx
13-07-03, 04:52 PM
I totally agree with Ayah as I beleive that she has taken all the words out of my mouth.In addition to all that, I beleive Oman has alot to offer and I'm sure that many agree with me.
:kewl:

Soulless
04-11-07, 01:54 PM
Simple Answer , Lack of Money. :):):):)

5alfanooh
04-11-07, 02:49 PM
cuz its better to spend money on more important things than vacations.. Its good to have a vacation every while, If the person can afford it.. plus now Salalah is a Good Destination really..

plus Conservative Oman, who are alot, prefer to go to Arabian countries or Gulf States rather than Europe due to alot of known reasons.

UmKhalid
04-11-07, 03:36 PM
Because we have many beautiful places to visit in my country. And our and our family's experiences of travelling abroad were like this: They only stay for a short while, and because they won't be back to the same country until God knows when they try not to let anything pass them and so when they come back home they are absolutly exhausted.


And because we're not really show offs, we don't care about WHERE we go in the holiday more than just having fun, no matter where. We can be together and have fun even in our back yard.

marianna
04-11-07, 04:37 PM
I know of an Omani family who frequent the Mayo Clinic here in the states quite often. They try and get some sight seeing in also. They loved New York and were enamoured with its skyline.

Pygmalion
04-11-07, 06:23 PM
Salam..
I m sure many of u have noticed that most of the people from the Gulf go for vacation outside to( london, sydney,paris,malaysia....in the summer except [SIZE=3] Omanies. very few families from Oman go 4 vacation despite the hot weather during the summer.

what do u think is the reason??????:color:

1. The post is too old and that observation might hold the thread was first posted:)

2. How do you back up that observation? All Gulf and not Omanis? Why do we always compalin... except Omanis ...except Omanis... I think the average Saudi and Bahraini is economically worse than us so, God help all!

Evana
07-11-07, 10:51 PM
Salam..
I m sure many of u have noticed that most of the people from the Gulf go for vacation outside to( london, sydney,paris,malaysia....in the summer except [SIZE=3] Omanies. very few families from Oman go 4 vacation despite the hot weather during the summer.

what do u think is the reason??????:color:

I am not sure of that fahad, ...because I see lots of Omanies mtkdsin (what's mtkdsin in arabic? lol) esp in Thailand, Malaysia, Maldives(countries dont cost much)....hmmmm yeah after thinking it's all about your Budget . :p :D

dija
08-11-07, 06:29 PM
no cash thats why!

Rossonero
08-11-07, 09:48 PM
Many go on vacations, you can't generalize. Many go to East Asia now and most of Omani's go to Dubai since it's got everything and is nearby. Omani's also have Salalah, and of course many go to were they originally are from, be it Iran, Tanzania etc.

Dam3eti
09-11-07, 12:30 AM
I don't know what ur talking about, I know a lot of Omani families who go abroad every summer, my family goes abroad every summer as well, Omani's just don't go to places where most Arabs go to :p

Thug4Life
09-11-07, 10:03 AM
they will Go now Less with such inflation that you save to feed ur family first as a priority :)