I've had this on my mind for awhile now........and seeing el7ilwa's quote reinforced my thoughts on the subject.

Girls if a guy told you that he is not looking at girls & you are the first girl he talked with, know directly that he is a LIER

Has anyone noticed how some guys just know exactly what to say, and when to say it? All they're lurrve talk and buttering up... And haven't u noticed how it's all the same; repeated over and over again to +20 girls........

Seems to me it's misused and overused so much it's yesterdays news that you're 'the one' to every other guy you meet.

And many (not all but many) use it to manipulate the girl into thinking she's all they want and 'all they could ever ask for' and a dream come true'......ect ect. :rolleyes:

When I see some guys doing it to my friends, honestly, it boils my blood and I think the girl is intensely stupid for falling for it.

Is it the guys fault for using it, or is it the girl's for being gullible enough to believe it?

Girls: How often do you get sweet talked?
Guys: How often do you use ? And if you do, why do you use it?

Now, I've gotta say, I don't think ALL guys do it out of them being scum but for some it actually DOES come from the heart. Though they're rare to find but oh so special when they do come along. :)

LoooooooooooL :color: I didn't know that I'm inspiring others by my words:p e7m e7m....
WEll to answer your Q it is the fault of whome I think it is the girls fault to be such stupid & easily to be cheated & some of them know that they are cheated by guys, but they don't care about that:duh: ...... Personaly once I hear such words which became like an oldy song I can't stop laughing cauz it is a known lie nowadays & it became as a joke:gap: . U are the first girl I've talked with, I've never seen a girl in your manners, from which planet u r....etc:D LoL.

There is another topic in the personal problems sabla by AP talking about same issue.

And to say something about the topic, why girls are soo dump to believe whatever being told, can't they use their brain and find the truth or just like to listen and smile :p

well, i agree with el 7ilwa, i think its the girls fault to belive such words..!!! a girl shouldnt be that stupid to belive it!

And when i get sweet talk i just ignore it because i would No way belive it! :rolleyes:

Originally posted by IceTea
There is another topic in the personal problems sabla by AP talking about same issue.

And to say something about the topic, why girls are soo dump to believe whatever being told, can't they use their brain and find the truth or just like to listen and smile :p

Hmm.....I hadn't seen AP's thread before although what I'm trying to bring out is a bit different than her topic. Anyhow, I suppose they are related so if the mod's feel like movin......

Same thing applied to guys !

Girls will say you are the 1st guy to know and talk to ! !

But it's not clear in guys case , coz guywisely talking , a guy don't give a tihs wether he's the 1st one or # 1000000000 ! as long as his goal is clear ahead of him ! Where's girls ( some) like to hear such bullsh1t !

Originally posted by runnin' around
Hmm.....I hadn't seen AP's thread before although what I'm trying to bring out is a bit different than her topic...

It,s sound like contradication in the speech above (i hadn,t & it,s diff ) i am acting like Konan am i ?

Unfortunatly gurls bigen dispelled can,t recognize between pretend and honest guYz but God has reward us a mutual feelings to clarify thos 2 category .

I think that it is completely the girl's fault if she's naive enough to actually believe what the boy is telling her. You can't trust anyone, not even yourself sometimes!

And the stuff that some of them say :duh: .. really, crossing the lines of reality. Way too out of this world!

Originally posted by 3aYaR_So_MucH
It,s sound like contradication in the speech above (i hadn,t & it,s diff ) i am acting like Konan am i ?



:duh:

I hadn't read it before starting the thread.


And why are you all blaming the girl? Shouldn't the wrong be blamed on it's STARTER rather than it's victim?

why would u girls concider his sweet talk buttering up? maybe he's pouring his heart out and into that relation ship..and actually means every word he's saying?

pathetic that girls always think that guys are always lying to them.

am not saying u should all be naive and belive every single thing..a guy tells u..but dont be paranoid either.

Maybe it will be useful if the guys were telling us here some of the typical sweet talks they usually used....to avoid other ladies to fall in the trap :D

What about something like:

IF THE GUY IS STILL SINGLE:

1) You are such a beautiful girl and I have never seen such a beauty before!

2) You are really different than all the other girls I ever met before!

3) You are a breath of fresh air in my life!

4) Before meeting you, my life had no meaning!

5) I have never felt like this before, I am so in love with you!

6) I have the feeling that we met before, aren't you so or so...

7) Gosh you are amazing and are the smartest girl I have met!

8) I didn't call you but of course I missed you!

9) If you are with me, I will make you my queen!

10) Of course I thought of you but I didn't call because I left my phone in my car/ or at home..

IF THE GUY IS MARRIED:

All of the above plus...

11) I have problems with my wife, you are my sunshine!

12) You are everything she is not!

13) I promise I will marry you, but not now as I need to settle few things first!

14) You make me feel alive and with you life is worth living :rolleyes:!!!

...bla, bla,.... bla, bla... :o

Originally posted by runnin' around


Is it the guys fault for using it, or is it the girl's for being gullible enough to believe it?



Its both fault. Guys to think they might have a chance with the girl. And the girl to give him the chance to even say such words to her. (sometimes it cant be helped but the girl if a guy approaches should always be firm and clear where she stands or else he might try again and again).


Guys: How often do you use ? And if you do, why do you use it?

:rolleyes: hmm .....never....:D ....and never will... I wouldnt accept it on a sister... so wouldnt even consider thinking about it.

so i guess i never used of those lines XP ...or do have any of my own...:)

Originally posted by X-press

3) You are a breath of fresh air in my life!

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hathii too much 3ad ..:D

i guess if the girl likes to hear this from ANYONE then she is looking to be loved and she is not in love .. the difference is HUGE .... she is looking to be atrracting boys around her (which is pleasureable and fun to some girls )

if the boy likes to say this to EACH girl then he is simply looking to play with girls, have fun and be the point of attraction of as mnay girls as possible (which is considered fun and plesure for some boys)

IT IS NOT THE WORDS THAT HAS THE MAGIC, IT IS FROM WHOM AND TO WHOM THEY ARE SAID.
:color:

I agree that some girls like hearing this "sweet talk" and flirtations because it makes them "feel good" about themselves. If both sides are just joking around and having fun then I don't see what's the harm. As long as they both know what they're doing and can handle everything, then let them flirt away...

Originally posted by X-press
Maybe it will be useful if the guys were telling us here some of the typical sweet talks they usually used....to avoid other ladies to fall in the trap :D

What about something like:

IF THE GUY IS STILL SINGLE:

1)

2)

3)

4)

5)

6)
7)

8)

9)

10)

IF THE GUY IS MARRIED:

All of the above plus...

11)

12)
13)

14)

...bla, bla,.... bla, bla... :o


;)

Copied, learned new ones..

By nature will say same…Otherwise we look tasteless ( Awain..Ma3ndenash Zoouu ).. :sorry:



I see it as:

It’s both fault….as DD mention up….and we can’t blame one part at all.

But I’ve seen & met boys who have kind of long list of girls, and there fighting to break what so called ‘ Genis’s Record’ in getting max no of girls ( fooled …..see not foolish ) on that list. :confused:


Guys: How often do you use ? And if you do, why do you use it?

Personally, I been always Difish ( poor unlucky chap) in such things…..So Alhamdulilah I’m away from 3awar alras ( headache) :color:....till now.....!!!

LOL Xpress tell me u were kidding. for me that boy is big Lier:gap: and he need a girl who can kick his *****

Great topic, i am glad that this topic has been mentioned and commented about...

here is what i have to say...

Originally posted by runnin' around
Has anyone noticed how some guys just know exactly what to say, and when to say it? All they're lurrve talk and buttering up... And haven't u noticed how it's all the same; repeated over and over again to +20 girls........

when you say "know EXACTLY what to say" do u mean that they say what you want them to say or is it that they say what you already know they would say, before or while they are saying it???

i dont know about other guys, but i dont repeat what i say to a girl... (if i was flerting with her, which i dont do very offen) i know guys who would use the same tricks to get a girl but never the same words over and over again... some men are original in their approatch...

Originally posted by runnin' around
Seems to me it's misused and overused so much it's yesterdays news that you're 'the one' to every other guy you meet.

i belive that there is one girl for every guy out there, its both their deuty to find the other, girls fantasize about it, guys talk about it... but in the end, finding the right match is whats being acheived...

they are many ways to skin a cat, and even more ways to lure hearts and define love...

but if a person has already found his/her match, they should stop playing the 'game' with everyone they see or like and leave it to the other hunters and hunted out there... the 'game' only gets played with your husband/wife(ves)...

Originally posted by runnin' around
And many (not all but many) use it to manipulate the girl into thinking she's all they want and 'all they could ever ask for' and a dream come true'......ect ect. :rolleyes:

its takes two to tango and the same goes with love... a guy cant be with a girl who he loves but not getting any love back from...
so girls if you were intrested in a guy, make sure you share the same feelings as he does towards you, and dont fall for it easily... he might use all the tricks in the book to get with you... just learn how to say 'no', and make him learn how to listen to your 'no'...

Originally posted by runnin' around
When I see some guys doing it to my friends, honestly, it boils my blood and I think the girl is intensely stupid for falling for it.

dont judgy a book by its cover, you never know whats the intention of the guy... he might really love the girl... and the girl might really love him, or has yet to see that she loves him...

Originally posted by runnin' around
Is it the guys fault for using it, or is it the girl's for being gullible enough to believe it?

if a girl hears what she wants to hear, e.g. what XP said earlier the girl might give in after a while and go with what the guy says,

once the guy has had enough, its the end,
once the guy finds a better girl, its the end,
once the girl finds the truth, its the end,
and so on...

Originally posted by runnin' around
Girls: How often do you get sweet talked?

the sweeter she is, the more she would hear it from guys...

Originally posted by runnin' around
Guys: How often do you use ? And if you do, why do you use it?

i would use sweet words on girls i know, only friends or whom i consider friends... and they dont mind it at all, or know that i am just teasing them... and thats the reason why i use it... for laughs

Originally posted by runnin' around
Now, I've gotta say, I don't think ALL guys do it out of them being scum but for some it actually DOES come from the heart. Though they're rare to find but oh so special when they do come along. :)

if it comes out from the heart, you should know that that person is saying the truth and wants to complement you... can a guy say something to a girl without the girl feeling that she is being hit on or flerted on???

i for one get frustreated when a girl falls in love with me just coz i was nice to them or acted in a certain way... people have intentions and as long as the intrention is clean then alls well...

i do have intentions, and i do admit some of my intentions might be bad, but i do have good ententions too... and i am here to prove to all that not all guys have bad intentions... they are some out there as good and even better than me...

hope that i made sence... :rolleyes:

Girls: How often do you get sweet talked?

I find it naive that some girls would actually fall in for these words, you can obviously know if a guy is serious or just playing around by the way he talks and acts.
It happens all the time, and I just can't stop laughing at how silly some guys can be, sorry no offense, and I must say, there are many great guys out there, but there are a lot who just enjoy doing this! I mean the other day, a young guy, who was much much younger than me, I would say he was about 17 or 18 came to my car as I was going in and asked me if my car was for sale and he had this little paper in his hand, which obviously had his number, so I said no in a rude way! lol, how silly was he? Thinking that I would fall for such a silly trick!

when I go with some ppl ..they start to talk about how do they play with the girls mind by flirting them and lie at them ..and I thing where the he l l is the girls minds ?? how did they fall for such talk ........I believe there are no guys honest out there ....anyways ..nerja3 7ag me7war 7adeethna..
How often do you use ? And if you do, why do you use it?
I don't use it ... my throught become very thirsty when I talk to any girl ...and I do things like : scratching my head and my nose without reason ..i put my hand in my m'7ba(the pocket on the two sides of the dishdasha) :D

Guys use it so they can enter into the girls heart and then play with thier mind and feelings

I think this attitude is found in many young men, trying to impress or grab's girl attention regardless if its for genuine reasons or not.

I wanted to say some thing, some girls r stupid or silly to belive guy's sweet talk & they might give them any info they ask about even if it is their best friends secrets or their families secrets awain under Love....so what do u think about such girls??Do they deserve respect?? :duh:
Good point to discuss Lah..

Originally posted by runnin' around
Now, I've gotta say, I don't think ALL guys do it out of them being scum but for some it actually DOES come from the heart. Though they're rare to find but oh so special when they do come along. :)


now theres the big problem, we girls get many talks like - yeah ur the only one blah blah.... so how do we differenciate from the ones who mean it ( ones who "pour" their heart out) from those who just say it coz they assume we are love starved?!

this is how girls differienciate it ( this following theory is psychologically true) :-
when the sweet words come from a guy we cant possibly fall for, u know from those guys u JUST CANT imagine having a romantic conversation with let alone a romantic...... then we take <----------these guys as "liars "

when the sweet words come from a guy whom u think is likable, then he' wouldnt be dismissed as a liar, the girl would be like "it might be true u know....... but .... nahhhhhh"

NOW, when the sweet loving words come from a guy whom u like,, then WHAM! the girl directly believe it! coz HE cant lie!... but if the girl is paranoid about guys, she might hesitate in believeing him,, but he just has to add another sweet line for the girl to be his. The doubts keeps coming back to the girl's head, but are wiped away as soon as the guy sayss " i really love u, u know". ( this is from personal experience)

thats why even the most level headed girls get cheated, and lied to. so all in all, u cant take girls believing this as stupid, they just fall for it coz they love him too. so there isnt a way to figure out whose lying and who isnt, its just a matter risk! its always a risk.

Originally posted by el7ilwa
I wanted to say some thing, some girls r stupid or silly to belive guy's sweet talk & they might give them any info they ask about even if it is their best friends secrets or their families secrets awain under Love....so what do u think about such girls??Do they deserve respect?? :duh:
Good point to discuss Lah..

El7ilwa, dont critisize like this, if u judge whether a girl deserves respect or not only by the aspect of what shes doing under the spell of love, then u are very narrow minded.

theres a possibility that each and every girl might fall in love and do things like those mentioned above, its just that some girls indulge in the love notion and others dont because they are "strong" enough or they dont becouase they were brought up in limited freedom.

now those who havent had the bad luck or good luck (which ever way u take it) of falling in love, and being "stupid and silly" as said by El7ilwa, then the shouldnt sit down and critisize the other girls for being stupid.

in short if u havent been there, then better to sit tight, keep quiet and watch! or if thats too much to ask, then try finding out on how to stop them from being "silly and stupid" instead of just sitting down, and yapping on and on and on on how stupid these girls are.

Originally posted by runnin' around

Has anyone noticed how some guys just know exactly what to say, and when to say it? All they're lurrve talk and buttering up... And haven't u noticed how it's all the same; repeated over and over again to +20 girls........



RA RA RA there u go again putting the blame on guys. we only say what u ladies wanna hear. why??? cause the truth is too cold to handle and too hot to hold for u ladies.

that's what u wanna hear so that's what u gonna get.

Originally posted by Seniora
El7ilwa, dont critisize like this, if u judge whether a girl deserves respect or not only by the aspect of what shes doing under the spell of love, then u are very narrow minded.
Well I'm not criticizing cauz this is the fact my dear sis, it seems u r from the Gulf & you know that we have traditions & customes we have to respect & one of them is saving the girl reputation from being talked about between guys, so when a girl telling about her friend's personal info to the guy she loves then she doesn't deserve the trustment & also as I've heard this is a sin she made....& Y you make love looks like a mental diseas so any one under it can do any stupid act with out feeling guilty or being punished???

Originally posted by Seniora
theres a possibility that each and every girl might fall in love and do things like those mentioned above, its just that some girls indulge in the love notion and others dont because they are "strong" enough or they dont becouase they were brought up in limited freedom.

I agree with u that each girl might fall in love but this is not an excuse to spoil her friend reputation & she should has principles & doesn't sell them for the first buyer even if he loves her truly, what does this make with her friend life??unless he wants to play at both of them???

Originally posted by Seniora
now those who havent had the bad luck or good luck (which ever way u take it) of falling in love, and being "stupid and silly" as said by El7ilwa, then the shouldnt sit down and critisize the other girls for being stupid.

Yah u r right, but other girls (like me who is watching) should learn from there mistackes & draw other girls attention to that.

Originally posted by Seniora
in short if u havent been there, then better to sit tight, keep quiet and watch! or if thats too much to ask, then try finding out on how to stop them from being "silly and stupid" instead of just sitting down, and yapping on and on and on on how stupid these girls are.

Nop u didn't get it dear, I wont be like other ppl who see the mistack & say this is non of my business cauz or religion requested us to advice ppl & change the bad things if we can, & typing here is not a waste of time it is a place which can change many things in ppl mentality & it can send the MSG..... & by the way tell me what do u call such girls so I might change my mind.

So she gaves me an idea for this Q to ask u..
Girls if your friend who u trusted & told her many personal things about u gave your secrets to the guy she loves or what ever & u don't know if this guy gonna use these info against u or distribute them:rolleyes: how u gonna feel & what u gonna think of this girl??? will u forgive her cauz she is in love=Dump?? or what??
Guys u can say your opinion too.

I forgot to say some thing to Seniora, u attacked me alot in my previous post & tried to show that such girls are not guilty, I wounder Y??? Do u try to make for you excuses??

Well,, if the girl ahs fallen in love and hurt by listening to guy's sweet words then she deserves what she got. I think girls should know guys more and vice versa...the smart girl would know when the preson is honest and when he is liar.

Originally posted by el7ilwa
I forgot to say some thing to Seniora, u attacked me alot in my previous post & tried to show that such girls are not guilty, I wounder Y??? Do u try to make for you excuses??

i am not trying to make excuses, i am trying to tell u that ur method out there of trying to make these girls look like they are something less is soo wrong of u because thats wat ur post implied.
no i am not defending them, i know my religion very well, and i know wat they are doing is wrong, and i also know that we should not just sit back and do nothing,, as good muslims we should do something to stop them, and by posting this


[QUOTE]Originally posted by El7ilwaso what do u think about such girls??Do they deserve respect??[QUOTE]

The above prooves that u have already passed judgement on them, u already think that they are something less than u and they dont deserve respect. i dont see how u are "saving the girls reputation" when u think that these same girls dont deserve respect?

and u miss understood, i am not taking love as some mental disease, all i am saying is ur own good freind, can completely change when she falls in love, they become blind to everything they dont want to see. later when she comes out of this "love" she may regret what she did.

since u are soo intent on righting whatever wrong people do then instead of just sitting there and asking if these girls deserve respect or not, u should be asking what is there to do to make these girls realise their mistakes.

since u are soo intent on righting whatever wrong people do then instead of just sitting there and asking if these girls deserve respect or not, u should be asking what is there to do to make these girls realise their mistakes.

Ok u tell us what is the solution, & by the way I noticed that u didn't think of the other part " I mean the victim" :rolleyes: so she is the guilty now????

See I'm sorry cauz I'm so sensitive about this issue, but cauz I've just heard about such a prb which causes many prbs to one inocent girl I really felt so bad & I hope u can understand my point.

RA RA RA there u go again putting the blame on guys. we only say what u ladies wanna hear. why??? cause the truth is too cold to handle and too hot to hold for u ladies.

that's what u wanna hear so that's what u gonna get.


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A7sant BIG MO ur DA MAAANNN:D

Da Man,
it's all good!!! welcome to the playa's club.

well..everyone who is love will tell the other side whatever he/she know about the other ppl.. but sometimes u dont if the man/woman is playing around and not in love with the other side a9lan.. to be honest girls should not tell any of her girlfriends secrets to her Boyfriend..coz as el7ilwa said he can use the info against her friend..he might need the information to give it to his friends, u never know..now adays the information goes quickly to eveyone..in few hours u are going to listen about yourself from ppl infront of you...sometimes u are inocent and u didnt do anything but ppl talked about u that u did this and u did that.. so i think not everything should be said by the both man and woman.

Originally posted by Big MO
welcome to the playa's club.

Playa's are do_ _ ahem. I'm not going to complete that. :D

And I'm NOT blaming all guys. I'm blaming the ones that are guilty.

Mo tell me what I wanna hear, but I want it to come from the heart. Don't say it just CAUSE I want to hear it. Otherwise.......I don't want to hear it. ;)

Thank u amoOor, I think u got my point & explained it very well :)

(Quote:)
Girls if a guy told you that he is not looking at girls & you are the first girl he talked with, know directly that he is a LIER


What would be the guy known as....? when he IN FACT is speaking with the girl for the FIRST TIME.....any words...other than that LIER...

Originally posted by hercules
(Quote:)
Girls if a guy told you that he is not looking at girls & you are the first girl he talked with, know directly that he is a LIER


What would be the guy known as....? when he IN FACT is speaking with the girl for the FIRST TIME.....any words...other than that LIER...

Mmmmm other than LIER I think CHEATER will do the same:D .

Originally posted by el7ilwa
Mmmmm other than LIER I think CHEATER will do the same:D .

SEEMS...u had experienced it in life...so i POLITELY agree with u... :D

Originally posted by hercules
SEEMS...u had experienced it in life...so i POLITELY agree with u... :D

In fact I havn't experianced any thing by my self, I just learn from others mistack that's it aren't me so clever:p ...... & what I said is for one case not ingeneral:) .

For all of you that talk with me at Msn or elsewhere, you should know that I always sweet talk with all. So, am not trying to send any signals at all ... lol

For that special someone, you'll know first hand :D

Oh guys will always sweet talk you to get you on their good side.

It's just their way, and it isn't always harmful ;)

Umm ... just realized I dug up an ancient thread!

My computer's messed up! :bored:

come on ladies ... dont u think it would be abit boring if guys dont sweet talk !!:D

plus even girls sweet talk guys !!! its not a bad thing as long as its all for good intentions !!!! no harm done .. right !!! :kewl:

ahh those types of threads i can not post in it ...

let me increas the number of my post

cheer up guys soon stupid clown will leave sabla

i use only salt talk hahahahah