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KING_OF_ALL 03-07-03, 02:53 AM It became easy now a days to adopt here in Oman provided you fulfill the reasonable criteria set by the concerned Ministry. Obviously, you would find these kids in hospitals where they have been thrown earlier(could be years) by their criminal parents!!!
Unfortunately..all over the Arab peninsula such kids are considered as real "bad luck" and having them means you end up in destroying yourself and the rest of the family too:confused:
How far you think this is TRUE..and if you have real situations, would love to hear from you?
Cerulean 03-07-03, 03:27 AM First of all, I completely disagree with them being “bad luck” or any other dim name. It isn’t their fault they’ve been brought into the world by a ‘mistake’ two people –who plainly didn’t know the consequences- made. It is very unfortunate that they have to suffer because of an act committed by two immature, or irrational, people. I think the least we could do for these abandoned children, is to offer them a roof over their heads and a loving family – that’s if the circumstances allow so. These children will then grow up appreciating the love and support given by their foster home, instead of growing to hate themselves and regard themselves as “bad luck”. In the end, I just can’t figure how someone can make such a ‘silly’ mistake, and how they can just throw their kid behind, without giving two pins about their kids future. :confused:
KING_OF_ALL 03-07-03, 05:20 PM Hi Cerulean and welcome to the Sabla..
Thanx for your reply here..I agree with you when you said that its not their fault and its the immature parents.....etc.
Why I said about this thing here in the 1st place..b'caz I've heard about it myself and somehow seen it in real situation..now am not sure if the analysis of such bad luck situations comes from such kids or its just the consequences of bad things done in the past of those effected people:confused:
Where is everyone else's point of view in this?
Navigator 03-07-03, 05:26 PM Well, everybody will say , nothing wrong with them , it's not thier mistake and all this talk !
But how many of you out there are really willing to adopt a kid ?!!
I myself won't do it ! i just can say they have my sympathy !
Libellula 03-07-03, 05:47 PM I've thought about this, and I'm willing to adopt when I'm older.
First off, I don't see why you should bring more children into this world when there are so many unfortunate ones. We should take care of these children who have been 'abandoned' or lost their parents in some way.
It's true that everyone wants their "own" child, and not someone elses, but what about those who are unable to have their own children? They should consider adopting.
The main problem when it comes to a single woman adopting is that a man will find it difficult to accept her with "strings attached" (or, the child) as he wouldn't want to be responsible for the child. I think that this is why most women are afraid to adopt. If there were actually men willing to accept bringing a child into their home and raising it, then it's possible that more women would adopt.
KING_OF_ALL 03-07-03, 06:07 PM Navi and Phoenix..all what you say is ok to me!
You did not say anything about the "luck" they would encouter..good or bad?
Navigator 03-07-03, 06:12 PM Originally posted by KING_OF_ALL
Navi and Phoenix..all what you say is ok to me!
You did not say anything about the "luck" they would encouter..good or bad?
well,, luck , has nonthing to do , wether they are adopted kids or ur own ! it's just how others gonna look at this kid ! and how caring and understanding is the surroundings , in such society like us , it's very hard for people to understand this , and will never stop saying he's just an adopted ,or he's a ******* !
Libellula 03-07-03, 06:28 PM There's no such thing as bad luck. It's all about tolerance, how caring you are and how you deal with situations. I don't believe in this so-called "bad luck"
I think the adopted child should have a right to take the adopting parents name.... so he/she grows up as a healthy personality and a productive loved indvidual!
Navigator 03-07-03, 09:52 PM Originally posted by Seham
I think the adopted child should have a right to take the adopting parents name.... so he/she grows up as a healthy personality and a productive loved indvidual!
will other people leave him alone !
KING_OF_ALL 04-07-03, 03:44 AM Originally posted by Navigator
will other people leave him alone !
Exactly Navigator..thats one thing! Their words would finally turn into balls of fire aimed at that poor family which one way or the other will suffer defeat!!!
Libellula 04-07-03, 04:24 PM People are spiteful and always look down at others (especially if they think that they have a just reason to do so), but if the parent(s) of the child provide him/her with proper care and show that they love him/her, then the child would be OK.
Enjoy Ur Death 04-07-03, 04:24 PM i think adoption should be encouraged in Oman and the repsective Ministry should give financial assessment for the parents who adopt these children ...
i have seen few children in the hospitals who were found on the door of that hospital ... imagine how sweet r they but they r left fo the life to look for them . it is not fair ..
what happens next? the nurses (Indain or Philpinos) look after them so:
1) they lose their Omani identity.
2) they can't speak Arabic but English.
3) they r highly suspected to have problems in their development as it is very importnat for the child to be attacched to his mother (especially) and his father to grow normally.
Libellula 04-07-03, 04:27 PM Aren't there any good orphanages or child care centres in Oman?
pharmacy113 04-07-03, 04:50 PM Originally posted by Phoenix
Aren't there any good orphanages or child care centres in Oman?
There is one recently opened in Al-Khuwair.
I think a family should adopt a child only after thinkning deeply about it. And if there are any doubts that they wouldn't be able to give the love and care needed by that child, then they shouldn't adopt one.
There was a case in Khoula Hospital last week where a family who adopted a 1 and half year old child and brought him to the hospital with fractures in his legs and arms with bruises on his face. Da'mn this family :fire: Why did they adopt him if they hate him this much??!! :fire:
Anyway, luck has nothing to do with it. It's they way the family deals with the adopted ones.
Libellula 04-07-03, 05:27 PM Originally posted by pharmacy113
There is one recently opened in Al-Khuwair.
I think a family should adopt a child only after thinkning deeply about it. And if there are any doubts that they wouldn't be able to give the love and care needed by that child, then they shouldn't adopt one.
There was a case in Khoula Hospital last week where a family who adopted a 1 and half year old child and brought him to the hospital with fractures in his legs and arms with bruises on his face. Da'mn this family :fire: Why did they adopt him if they hate him this much??!! :fire:
Anyway, luck has nothing to do with it. It's they way the family deals with the adopted ones.
That's sick!! :6:
Child abuse is a very serious matter..
The poor baby :weep: :sorry:
Adoption should be backed up with the inspection of social workers, as well as the police force! This is very important for cases of child abuse!
Thug4Life 04-07-03, 08:42 PM Originally posted by Navigator
Well, everybody will say , nothing wrong with them , it's not thier mistake and all this talk !
But how many of you out there are really willing to adopt a kid ?!!
I myself won't do it ! i just can say they have my sympathy !
well U can say that But situations change my friend
u can ask those who are unfourtionate and cant have kidds!
to them this is another chance :)
KING_OF_ALL 05-07-03, 03:02 AM Originally posted by pharmacy113
There is one recently opened in Al-Khuwair.
There was a case in Khoula Hospital last week where a family who adopted a 1 and half year old child and brought him to the hospital with fractures in his legs and arms with bruises on his face. Da'mn this family :fire: Why did they adopt him if they hate him this much??!!
I think it would be proper for the hospitals to treat such cases with Police assistance where if the act of torture is being approved then open a case against those parents!
Anyway, luck has nothing to do with it. It's they way the family deals with the adopted ones.
I still believe that luck or destiny rather..of the family too will be very much influenced..why i'm saying this..b'caz i've seen something like it in "real" life:confused:
Charmed 05-07-03, 06:04 PM Well, have an adopted sister, she is now 12 years old, and I love her so much as if she is my own flash and bold, people treat her differently because she is adopted, I care about her more then anything.
God encouraged such a thing for the child many reasons:
Education, Better life, Love and care, etc.
For the person who adopts:
Great thawab from God.
KING_OF_ALL 05-07-03, 09:18 PM Hi charmerd...
Thanx for sharing with us such a great experience. Sorry to ask you this..but i cant stop myself here..did you notice anything un-usual about the girl?..meaning were the surroundings around you smooth or were there any weird obstacles?!!!
Charmed 06-07-03, 01:49 AM Originally posted by KING_OF_ALL
Hi charmerd...
Thanx for sharing with us such a great experience. Sorry to ask you this..but i cant stop myself here..did you notice anything un-usual about the girl?..meaning were the surroundings around you smooth or were there any weird obstacles?!!!
Well, allot of kids her age treat her defiantly when their own cousins/relatives are around that some times she doesn't go to any of the relative's houses because of that, and they don’t want to come to our house when she calls them.
salaam
charmed, i appreciate you talking about your experience, but i don't know peope you are talking about the real adoption where the family name and all is given to yje child? if this what you mean then it cannot be implicated here because it is not allowed in islam,,however something similar [kafalah] si aencouraged in islam in these cases where thae family is taking care about the child but doesn't give him/her the name and still if she is a she cannot be totally free with the boys because she can get married to them and the same if he is a boy.
Charmed 08-07-03, 06:49 PM Originally posted by rafia
salaam
charmed, i appreciate you talking about your experience, but i don't know peope you are talking about the real adoption where the family name and all is given to yje child? if this what you mean then it cannot be implicated here because it is not allowed in islam,,however something similar [kafalah] si aencouraged in islam in these cases where thae family is taking care about the child but doesn't give him/her the name and still if she is a she cannot be totally free with the boys because she can get married to them and the same if he is a boy.
Well, we just gave her only the family name.
I think it takes great courage to accept a child and bear the responsibility, and it also shows how noble a person really is. I think that adopting a child and giving this child the love and support is one of the greatest things any person can do. To be realistic though, not all people can take such a responsibility, it depends on the nature of the person. There are many who like doing good deeds but maybe they just don't have the patience to take care of a child, now they're not bad.
But I think that doing this truely brings good luck and happiness to that family, esp. those who didn't get the chance to get a child of their own, and also those who are financially capable of taking care of a child.
KING_OF_ALL 09-07-03, 02:10 AM Originally posted by Dr N
But I think that doing this truely brings good luck and happiness to that family, esp. those who didn't get the chance to get a child of their own, and also those who are financially capable of taking care of a child.
You mentioned "good luck"..since I was thinking exactly in the opposite direction(bad luck)..did you experience such luck in real life..if so..please share it with us;)
Charmed 09-07-03, 02:18 PM Originally posted by KING_OF_ALL
You mentioned "good luck"..since I was thinking exactly in the opposite direction(bad luck)..did you experience such luck in real life..if so..please share it with us;)
Adopting a child doesn't have anything to do with good or bad luck, it's just our faith what God written if get in to bad setuations/times etc, it could also happen if the family never dopted the chaild in the first place.
The thing, most of people who start saying bad things about the dopted child, that they are gelous, and don't have faith in God, and don't see that also our Prophit Mohamed (S.A.W.) also adopted a child.
Charmed 09-07-03, 02:27 PM THe sadest thing I ever heard that a certian family addopted a child, and they are ill treating the baby, he is only 7 months and when he sees people he crys with feir, and now the baby is in the hospital and their is a case aginst that family.
I think they adopted him only because of the money they are getting from the goverment.
KING_OF_ALL 09-07-03, 04:18 PM Originally posted by Charmed
Adopting a child doesn't have anything to do with good or bad luck, it's just our faith what God written if get in to bad setuations/times etc, it could also happen if the family never dopted the chaild in the first place.
The thing, most of people who start saying bad things about the dopted child, that they are gelous, and don't have faith in God, and don't see that also our Prophit Mohamed (S.A.W.) also adopted a child.
I guess, we have to believe in God and whatever comes GOOD or BAD is from him and one way or the other its all tests for our faith as u said charmed.
I didn't know that the Prophet had an adopted child, do you know the details..would love to know who is he and how old was he when adopted and what did he become?:color:
KING_OF_ALL 09-07-03, 04:21 PM Originally posted by Charmed
THe sadest thing I ever heard that a certian family addopted a child, and they are ill treating the baby, he is only 7 months and when he sees people he crys with feir, and now the baby is in the hospital and their is a case aginst that family.
I think they adopted him only because of the money they are getting from the goverment.
Thats in-human! How on earth you abuse such a child and not only a child, its even the country's trust:confused:
H-Highness 09-07-03, 05:24 PM Well, Personally I'm planning of adopting a kid once I'm fully settled, eventhough I would be bless with kids from my own blood and flesh but its something that I can't stop feeling for them and hope my husband would understand me for that.
I don't believe in bad or good luck thingi, its all old bedtime kids tale but the thing I that I'm bit worried is that in our society where ones originity matters, its very difficult to raise such kid without people treating her/him differently.
KOA, no, unfortunatly, I haven't had the chance to experience this. When I said good luck, I meant that doing such a great deed will be rewared by God, and this is definitly good luck, there's nothing greater than that!
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