I think most of us knows how much the Census is important in the development of nations. What do you think of the current Oman’s Census..did it meet or going to meet its objectives?!!

In other words..do you believe in it???

Anyone is interested in the topic?

This shows that..no body care's about it..:confused:

Do you know that..one of its goals is to "make a better living" for Omanis. At least thats what they say:duh:

A census is a mandatory exercise for any nation that wishes to plan for its citizens. Yes it is a good thing and yes people should cooperate with the counters.


Read this site of the ministry of national economy on population policy. http://www.moneoman.gov.om/

KOA .. what makes me not to beleive in it when they are still in thier planing stage??

To me they look they are doing a good job and I guess they will succeed in reaching thier mission inshallah ..

What was the outcome and benifets to Omani people in the previous one?

The outcome of the previous census enabled the government to plan for the said population, increased… schools, hospitals, infrastructure, employment, etc.

That is the whole idea of having a census.

How about extra government universities, school graduates increasing every year and they need a place to accomodate them and complete their study. And not all people can afford private universities.

That idea........... could be in the pipeline too.

I hope it will not be a long pipeline coz the flow is increasing ..

Ice Tea, though I agree with you that not everyone can afford private universities but we also have to understand that its very costly to start another public university too! SQU is known for its high standered .. and if another uni is opened it has to be opened at the same level or more!

AP,

Are you saying that the government can't open another university same as SQU more or less.

I am saying that : its easy to say "open another university" but its not easy to implement.
ecnomic situation is not as good as before .. we have to put this in mind.

Then how come it's easy to open many schools every year. Many schools ofcourse is good step but also the outcome of those schools needs places to join and complete their study and have equal chances.

whats more important??
to raise a society that at least reached third secondary, or raise a society that have a percentage that have degrees and another percentage that didnt have a chair in school (so they will be illetrate)???

AP,

Which is better to leave 10,000 or more school graduates every year either looking for low level jobs, become criminals or stay at home waiting for a husband in case of girls. Or to higher educate and open the mind of 5000 guys and girls in all types of education, they will graduate as teachers, engineers, doctors, etc. and they will serve the country with quality rather then quantity.

I understand your point Ice Tea ..

but you are comparing schools to universities .. I beleive a school serve a wider range of people than universities!!

plus, a university's budegt could cost the budget of 10 schools!

I am not saying that a university is not important at all .. but we have to understand that its costly to start a new universtity and scince more and more universities are opening in Oman, scholarships could be given to people in order to study there .. which is done !

AP,

Are you saying that the government is only interested to educate people up to high school and then leave them to what ever infrastructure available.

Do you think it's fair for these school graduates who have dreams and study hard to get high grades which could reach to 70% and above not to complete their study due to lack of seats in the puplic univ. ?

Human resources is very important for the development of the country, and I mean quality human resources.

scince more and more Privateuniversities are opening in Oman, scholarships could be given to people in order to study there .. which is done !

This is what I said!
The Human Resource of a country is the most important resource!

And do you think 100 scholarships are enough for more than 14,000 school graduates every year. You have to be practical.

This is the most astonishing thing to me from the last census 1993:

Omani Population (15years +)
Illiteracy percentage by Age Group & Sex

Male (29 -15 years) 21.0%
(49-30 years) 82.2%

Female (29-15years) 4.5%
(49 - 30years) 38.8%

You'd think illiteracy is higher among females than males especially in the age group 30-49??!!

OR

Education 2001, for Omanis

Population (at Primary Education Age)
314,793

Students (In Primary Level)
909,967

Teachers (In Primary Level)
15,307

Student (per classroom)
32,2

Student (per teacher)
20,3

Total Enrolment Rate
98.5%


Now we all know for a fact that the average ratio of primary teacher:student can never be 1: 20 as stated above!! And if you do a simple calculation:
of dividing the number of primary students by the number of primary teachers (909,967/15,307=59.44), it would come out as almost one primary teacher for every 59 students!!

For further details visit:
www.omancensus.net

Originally posted by IceTea
And do you think 100 scholarships are enough for more than 14,000 school graduates every year. You have to be practical.

To be more precise IceTea..there are over 35,000 school graduates each year! I agree with you that the government is not doing enough in terms of Higher Education because they mainly concentrate just to fullfill the job opportunities that they "think" they would provide!

Seham..thanx for sharing with us those facts and figures..very interesting outcome. Thats talking about primary teachers, what about the secondary teachers?

Originally posted by KING_OF_ALL
Seham..thanx for sharing with us those facts and figures..very interesting outcome. Thats talking about primary teachers, what about the secondary teachers?
That is the only information I've found and the link is as above. However, doesn't the figure 900,000 (i.e. almost 1 million) students in primary school scare you???
Imagine in 10-12 years we will have almost 1 million High School graduates roaming the streets??? Do you think in 10-12 years we will have universities, colleges to accomodate all of these students or let us say not all ... 1/2 (450 thousand students) .... or 1/4 of them (225 thousand students).... I don't think so!! 10 years back when I finished 'High School' .... the government was able to accomodate less than 5 thousand. Now 10 years latter how many is the government able to accomodate may be 10-20 thousand. Imagine in another 10 years it will be able to accomodate 30 or 40 thousand??? What happens to 820,000??? Jobless on the street?!!!

May God bless Oman.... soon we are going back to the dark ages... if a miracle doesn't happen!!!! Oh ya and a reminder for the Omani people continue having 10 & 15 children!!

That is what the census tell us.... the disasters that are on the way!!

Originally posted by KING_OF_ALL
To be more precise IceTea..there are over 35,000 school graduates each year! I agree with you that the government is not doing enough in terms of Higher Education because they mainly concentrate just to fullfill the job opportunities that they "think" they would provide!



That is a more scary number 35,000 school graduates per year !!!

If we assume SQU taking 2000 and other institutes will take another 3000 then the remaining 30,000 humans will be where ???

Originally posted by KING_OF_ALL


In other words..do you believe in it???


What did I learn of the previous sensus ? I think the beneficiaries of such a job are the UNDP-WB and The planners-over-there

Originally posted by IceTea
That is a more scary number 35,000 school graduates per year !!!

If we assume SQU taking 2000 and other institutes will take another 3000 then the remaining 30,000 humans will be where ???

Teaching colleges will take : 4000

Military : 2223

Private sector : 1723

Die in Accident : 3001

Study Abroad : 73

taxi Drivers : 740

7'araf w tasjir : 231

hiasah o' qaraz : 87

raod observers : 8323

So u see it's notthat bad shipmate ! it's just the mentality !

Originally posted by Seham
Oh ya and a reminder for the Omani people continue having 10 & 15 children!!

That is what the census tell us.... the disasters that are on the way!!

Shall we implement the chinese policy on the no. of kids allowed per family...1 kid for 1 family:D

Inshallah miracles will happen and more natural resources will be found which hopefully gonna boost our economy:color:

Originally posted by IceTea
If we assume SQU taking 2000 and other institutes will take another 3000 then the remaining 30,000 humans will be where ???

Probably its a good idea to do another offer by the government for government workers to recieve 100% basic as their pension lump-sum!

A periodic similar thing is healthy i guess;)

Originally posted by Desert_Sloath
What did I learn of the previous sensus ? I think the beneficiaries of such a job are the UNDP-WB and The planners-over-there

DS...can you elaborate more pls on what you said..

what do you mean by UNDP-WB?:lost:

DS elaborates on nothing, he just jokes and jokes and jokes! And that is not a healthy thing for a gentleman to do.

Originally posted by KING_OF_ALL
DS...can you elaborate more pls on what you said..

what do you mean by UNDP-WB?:lost:

UNDP-WB : Using Narrow Directive Plans - Waste Budget

Originally posted by Mti
DS elaborates on nothing, he just jokes and jokes and jokes! And that is not a healthy thing for a gentleman to do.

Does that make him a good candidate for the OTT?

Originally posted by KING_OF_ALL
Probably its a good idea to do another offer by the government for government workers to recieve 100% basic as their pension lump-sum!

A periodic similar thing is healthy i guess;)

That idea could be nice too, but don't you think 100% too much :D

Thanx Navi for the full word.

Originally posted by IceTea
That idea could be nice too, but don't you think 100% too much :D

It's fine with the government..since we heard no complaints from the time the system was implemented before! Afterall..most of these salaries are allownces which make them quite easily payable.