Tell us whats ur favorite RPG game, and TRY to put some screenshots...

My Favorite games are Final Fantasy X and Fallout...

Check out Final Fantasy, this game rocks... But I still don't have it :(, On PS2:


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Fallout, I got all the Episodes Now, on PC:

Fallout 1:

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Fallout 2:


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Fallout Tactics:

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RPG ?? HMMMM ..does that include Metal Gear Solid ? ..anyway ...it's the most intersting game i ever played :color: ..its soooooooo make me fell like a spy :rolleyes: .......man I LOVE IT :eyes:

Originally posted by sad_dreamer
RPG ?? HMMMM ..does that include Metal Gear Solid ? ..anyway ...it's the most intersting game i ever played :color: ..its soooooooo make me fell like a spy :rolleyes: .......man I LOVE IT :eyes:

your not the only one who loves it :color:

But it ain't an RPG game.

RPG stand for Roll Playing Game...
That meas a game with turns, you get ur turn and do what ever you want with it, as the enemy also has a turn...

Originally posted by mf_alkhalili
your not the only one who loves it :color:

But it ain't an RPG game.

RPG stand for Roll Playing Game...
That meas a game with turns, you get ur turn and do what ever you want with it, as the enemy also has a turn...
oh .. i see .. thanx for explain it for me :)

Ur Welcome anytime Man :color:

And yeah, don't you like RPG games?

Originally posted by mf_alkhalili
Ur Welcome anytime Man :color:

And yeah, don't you like RPG games?
well they sounds nice ..but never bought one :(

Originally posted by sad_dreamer
well they sounds nice ..but never bought one :(

Aha, I see

Some people don't like these games just because they look at them from the outside, but these games from the inside ROCK...
Trust me, they are really nice...:kewl:

Well, Alright, no one likes RPG games?

Come on, anything... Just say it...

Blue_Chi Likes these games... How come he ain't here?:lost:


DeDe also, though I'm not sure :rolleyes:

Diablo II


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:cool:

LunarDam, Diablo II is one of the best games ever! :cool:
One of my Fav actually, one of my friends gave it to me a couple of years ago...

I gave it back to him... I wish I had it :sorry:

Originally posted by mf_alkhalili
LunarDam, Diablo II is one of the best games ever! :cool:
One of my Fav actually, one of my friends gave it to me a couple of years ago...

I gave it back to him... I wish I had it :sorry:


Why didn't you make a copy?

Originally posted by LunarDam
Why didn't you make a copy?

Man, those dayz there were no such things as CD-Writters... This was 5 years ago...

I wish I could get a copy from someone soon!:sorry:

Originally posted by mf_alkhalili
Man, those dayz there were no such things as CD-Writters... This was 5 years ago...

I wish I could get a copy from someone soon!:sorry:

Man you can get the original for dirt cheap now.

Best for me will always be Baldur's Gate and Baldur's Gate II, then followed by Final Fantasy VIII. Another one I would recommend is Grandia II.

You people don't know what real RPGs are. Those games you play on PC are nothing in relation to the real RPGs on consoles. They shouldn't ever be categorized with those RPGs on PC because they are not related to each other in anyway, I don't want to ***** about PC games, but real RPGs with storylines and characters are what I prefer to play rather than those online adventures that you play on PC.

Try playing Xenogears on the PSone, that is a real RPG for you.

Originally posted by LunarDam
Man you can get the original for dirt cheap now.

HUH??? :eek: :eek: :eek: WHERE????

Originally posted by superstar
You people don't know what real RPGs are. Those games you play on PC are nothing in relation to the real RPGs on consoles. They shouldn't ever be categorized with those RPGs on PC because they are not related to each other in anyway, I don't want to ***** about PC games, but real RPGs with storylines and characters are what I prefer to play rather than those online adventures that you play on PC.

Try playing Xenogears on the PSone, that is a real RPG for you.

You must be joking, aren't you? Name me one console game that is as epic and as big as Baldur's Gate and Baldur's Gate II. With the power of the console still below that of a PC, I doubt that you'll get anything like it now. And yes, the games I mentioned do have storylines and characters.

Originally posted by Milliardo Peacecraft
Best for me will always be Baldur's Gate and Baldur's Gate II, then followed by Final Fantasy VIII. Another one I would recommend is Grandia II.

WoW, what a counisdense... Someone who really likes the same games that I like... Yesterday I finished Final Fantasy VIII, I love that game...:)

And Grandia, I finished it last year almost... It nice...

But Baldur's Gate... Donno about it, could you make some screenshots?

Originally posted by Milliardo Peacecraft
You must be joking, aren't you? Name me one console game that is as epic and as big as Baldur's Gate and Baldur's Gate II. With the power of the console still below that of a PC, I doubt that you'll get anything like it now. And yes, the games I mentioned do have storylines and characters.

MR or MRS, for your basic knowledge, it is not the power of the machine or the graphics that make a console or a game worth playing, it is the gameplay. I can name many of Squaresoft's games that are the most epic and influential games in the GAMING HISTORY, I don't need a proof of how Squaresoft games have been an inspiration to the whole gaming industry. They have changed the way that we look at games. You can try to most historical ones lie FFVI on the SNES and you will know what the word "epic" means.

Originally posted by superstar
MR or MRS, for your basic knowledge, it is not the power of the machine or the graphics that make a console or a game worth playing, it is the gameplay. I can name many of Squaresoft's games that are the most epic and influential games in the GAMING HISTORY, I don't need a proof of how Squaresoft games have been an inspiration to the whole gaming industry. They have changed the way that we look at games. You can try to most historical ones lie FFVI on the SNES and you will know what the word "epic" means.

Yup, I know that gameplay is an important element. But the elements must blend together--good storyline, good characters, good gameplay, good graphics, and a computer powerful enough to handle all these elements. Consoles just don't have that level that a PC has. And having played FFVII, FFVIII and FFIII, I would have to say that the FF series is really not much. FFVII is raved by many FF fans (of which I am one, or mainly an FFVIII fan), but I was unimpressed by it. Same with FFIII (FFVI in the U.S.). They're epics for FF fans all right, but really would pale in comparison to RPG games for PC.

Baldur's Gate and Baldur's Gate II are games based on the Advanced Dungeons & Dragons Forgotten Realms series. They're great games. I'll post up some screenshots later, but I have to say that it is much better to play the game to really experience it.

Originally posted by Milliardo Peacecraft
Yup, I know that gameplay is an important element. But the elements must blend together--good storyline, good characters, good gameplay, good graphics, and a computer powerful enough to handle all these elements.

Number 1, storyline, characters, and gameplay have nothing to do with the powerf of the machine. I don't see how a PC would be able to handle these easier. To face the truth, it is the oppsite, there is a great difference between gameplay on a console and on a PC where the PC is not mainly made for gaming while consoles are made for that and this is reflected on the nature of games as you are seated in a different position playing videogames on a more significant distance than that of PC. This might not have any effect on this, but it is clearly found that it is a more confortable position for enjoying game stories just as if a person is watching a movie and not a game. This was about saying how a PC could handle storylines and characters better.

Number 2, there is a difference between the theoratical graphics power and what could be achieved in the actual gameplay and wuold be made by the developer. Some PCs COULD BE more powerful than some consoles, but this doesn't mean that the graphics of a games would be better on PC. This is because of the effort put by developers in making the game. For example, you would be able to find a game that would look as good as FFX on the PC, not only in graphics technology in terms of skin movement and facial expressions, but even in the actual game design and character presentation. I don't need to show you how the whole gaming industry in lots of different games have been trying to copy Square's character design, especially Squall of FFVIII has been copied in so many games. You could compare this to the graphics of your claimed PC games. The graphics might have perfect curves as this what your powerful processor might be able to do, but the characters would make simply cylinders and nothing more. Respect console game developers put more effort in their games. Another eg SQUARESOFT (AKA Square-Enix)


Originally posted by Milliardo Peacecraft
[font=comic sans ms]Consoles just don't have that level that a PC has. And having played FFVII, FFVIII and FFIII, I would have to say that the FF series is really not much. FFVII is raved by many FF fans (of which I am one, or mainly an FFVIII fan), but I was unimpressed by it. Same with FFIII (FFVI in the U.S.). They're epics for FF fans all right, but really would pale in comparison to RPG games for PC.
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I am actually used on reading many of these ultra-personal opinions.

FFVII is raved by many FF fans (of which I am one, or mainly an FFVIII fan), but I was unimpressed by it.

I believe that what makes an FF fan a fan is the fact that he/she likes the FF games. :S What the hell are you saying?

They're epics for FF fans all right
LOL, again, Final Fantasy Fans think that Final Fantasy games are epics. LOL, what is that comment? LOL

Anyway, I believe that you don't really know much about gaming. What you call very pale is actually what all the games that you see today are trying to learn from. You believe that FF fans are who only like the games and buy them, did you know that sold these number of copies ONLY in japan for these games~

Final Fantasy III 1.40
Final Fantasy VI 2.55
Final Fantasy V 2.45
Choro Trigger 2.03
Seiken Densetsu 2 1.50
Final Fantasy IV 1.44
Romancing Saga 3 1.30
Romancing Saga 2 1.18
Sa.Ga 1.10
Final Fantasy VIII 3.60
Final Fantasy VII 3.26
Final Fantasy IX 2.86
Final Fantasy Tactics 1.35
Saga Frontier 1.10
Chocobo's Mysterious Dungeons 1.10
Parasite Eve 1.00
Final Fantasy X (+ FFX: International) 2.74
Final Fantasy X-2 1.80

I don't think that there is ANYWAY, you could compare these sales to the same of your PC RPGs, ::confused: well, of course, you might think that this is just because of the loyality of the fans, of course because of you insufficient knowledge of the gaming industry, I would have to inform you of all the awards that the FF games and Squaresoft has been winning, for example you can read the following article.

This years Academy of Interactive Arts and Sciences (AIAS) awards are looking excellent for the RPG developer; Squaresoft. The nominations for Square are as follows:

Kingdom Hearts has been nominated for:
Outstanding Achievement in Character or Story.
Outstanding Achievement in Art Direction.
Outstanding Achievement in Animation.
Console RPG of the Year.

The latest outing of the Final Fantasy series, FFX has been nominated for:
Console RPG of the Year.
Outstanding Achievement in Animation.

It seems the hard work Squaresoft has put in over the last few years has paid off. The company has received a total of 8 awards in the last 5 years alone.



Well, of course, I know for sure that RPGs a very wide gaming genre that could include anything. This is why I believe that the traditional console RPGs shouldn't be categorized with PC games because they can't ever be included in their league.

Originally posted by superstar
Number 1, storyline, characters, and gameplay have nothing to do with the powerf of the machine. I don't see how a PC would be able to handle these easier. To face the truth, it is the oppsite, there is a great difference between gameplay on a console and on a PC where the PC is not mainly made for gaming while consoles are made for that and this is reflected on the nature of games as you are seated in a different position playing videogames on a more significant distance than that of PC. This might not have any effect on this, but it is clearly found that it is a more confortable position for enjoying game stories just as if a person is watching a movie and not a game. This was about saying how a PC could handle storylines and characters better.

Actually it does, or why is it that most, if not all, console RPGs are linear in storyline, while PC RPGs are more open-ended? Linearity has to do with how much the machine can take: if it is as "epic" as you say it is, then obviously it would need a machine that can take in all that information. After all, being a program, the storyline is dependent on how capable the machine is. Compare a PC RPG with a console RPG and you'll see what I mean. To go off-tangent a bit, you would notice how poorly Squaresoft actually made the PC versions of FFVII and FFVIII--meaning, they're directly taken from the console version, more or less. PC RPG players are much more used to the open-ended storylines of RPGs than the console counterparts.

Number 2, there is a difference between the theoratical graphics power and what could be achieved in the actual gameplay and wuold be made by the developer. Some PCs COULD BE more powerful than some consoles, but this doesn't mean that the graphics of a games would be better on PC. This is because of the effort put by developers in making the game. For example, you would be able to find a game that would look as good as FFX on the PC, not only in graphics technology in terms of skin movement and facial expressions, but even in the actual game design and character presentation. I don't need to show you how the whole gaming industry in lots of different games have been trying to copy Square's character design, especially Squall of FFVIII has been copied in so many games. You could compare this to the graphics of your claimed PC games. The graphics might have perfect curves as this what your powerful processor might be able to do, but the characters would make simply cylinders and nothing more. Respect console game developers put more effort in their games. Another eg SQUARESOFT (AKA Square-Enix)

True, there: consoles are actually geared more towards enhanced graphics than PC games, which is actually a shortcoming of console games: intense graphics does not equal to a great game, as you've noted. The consoles are aimed more at kids and early teens--who are less into storylines and more into graphics anyway. Thus the difference again between PC and console RPGs, as I have outlined earlier.

LOL, again, Final Fantasy Fans think that Final Fantasy games are epics. LOL, what is that comment? LOL

It only means that FF fans think that FF games are epics. Many PC RPG gamers beg to differ. The standard now of RPG has actually been set by Baldur's Gate, not anymore FFVII. FFVII was good for its time, but it fails on that aspect which is the bane of FF games: a linear storyline. That means that replayability is diminished (except for the hardcore FF fan), because you know its ending, you know how the characters move, act, react, etc. In short, it's the same game if you play it over.

Well, of course, I know for sure that RPGs a very wide gaming genre that could include anything. This is why I believe that the traditional console RPGs shouldn't be categorized with PC games because they can't ever be included in their league.

No, they couldn't, because console RPGs have a long way to go in order to break out of the linearity of its storylines. Until that time comes, PC RPG actually has the advantage over console RPG. What makes the console RPGs sell more is because it is geared towards kids and early teens--the main customers of the gaming--and especially console gaming--industry. It doesn't mean that the games are better per se.

Originally posted by Milliardo Peacecraft
Actually it does, or why is it that most, if not all, console RPGs are linear in storyline, while PC RPGs are more open-ended?


This is completly not true. You are comparing PC RPGs to Final Fantasy games only. Final Fantasy games are known to have definite storylines and characters. This enforces linearity in terms of storyline, but this has nothing to do with how good the game is because storyline is a matter of taste and has nothing to do with the power of the machine. Completely unlike what you had said. Anyway, the console RPG library is MUCH MORE wider than that of the PC. Again, to show the superiority of consoles over PCs in terms of game quality, other RPG genres include, Action, Tactical, Cinematic, and Simulation, of course not to mention Traditional which you are trying to argue against in your reply.


Originally posted by Milliardo Peacecraft
To go off-tangent a bit, you would notice how poorly Squaresoft actually made the PC versions of FFVII and FFVIII--meaning, they're directly taken from the console version, more or less. PC RPG players are much more used to the open-ended storylines of RPGs than the console counterparts.


LOL, what was that supposed to be? This shows exactly what I mean, the PC is not the best ground for RPGs as the actual hardware of the PC doesn't provide the full experience that a game could achieve. The success of the RPG on a console and its failure on PC proves that PCs are not the best medium for RPGs.

Originally posted by Milliardo Peacecraft
True, there: consoles are actually geared more towards enhanced graphics than PC games, which is actually a shortcoming of console games: intense graphics does not equal to a great game, as you've noted. The consoles are aimed more at kids and early teens--who are less into storylines and more into graphics anyway. Thus the difference again between PC and console RPGs, as I have outlined earlier.
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This is extremely not true. Just look at the PC game library, you would easily tell that the majority of the games are First Person shooters and other STORY-FREE games that have no literature in terms of production what so ever. Anyway, it is not true that game consoles are Aimed at teenages, especially with the current generation consoles like the PS2 and the XBOX where the audience aimed for is much older in age especially with the other features included in the console. This is also with the special reminder of the great number of games with a mature rating label.
The difference between PC games in general and Consoles games is that no one really takes PC games seriously as most people just think of them as time wasters on the run during work or during free times. Unlike consoles which are made for the experience of gaming itself.

Originally posted by Milliardo Peacecraft
It only means that FF fans think that FF games are epics. Many PC RPG gamers beg to differ. The standard now of RPG has actually been set by Baldur's Gate, not anymore FFVII. FFVII was good for its time, but it fails on that aspect which is the bane of FF games: a linear storyline. That means that replayability is diminished (except for the hardcore FF fan), because you know its ending, you know how the characters move, act, react, etc. In short, it's the same game if you play it over.
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This is a total off-topic discussion, you are comparing linear games to non-linear games and this is not the difference between PC and Consoles games. PLUS, the non-linearity of a game does not lay only in the storyline as there are other aspects that make a game worth playing a game. Especially final fantasies as there are other elements about the character depth and hidden dungeons that make the game worth playing.
Anyway, you can just say that PC games are non-linear while consoles games are linear. Have you ever played a Legend of Mana or a SaGa game from square, these are known to be the greatest non-linear games ever.

Originally posted by Milliardo Peacecraft
No, they couldn't, because console RPGs have a long way to go in order to break out of the linearity of its storylines. Until that time comes, PC RPG actually has the advantage over console RPG. What makes the console RPGs sell more is because it is geared towards kids and early teens--the main customers of the gaming--and especially console gaming--industry. It doesn't mean that the games are better per se.

Final Fantasy games are not aimed only at teenages as their fan base extended to more mature players because of their long history. PLUS, the number of sales don't necessary show the quality and my proof of quality was the awards won by Square for its games.

Originally posted by mf_alkhalili
HUH??? :eek: :eek: :eek: WHERE????


http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00008AV4O/qid=1054336028/sr=1-2/ref=sr_1_3_2/202-3952878-8569447

Originally posted by LunarDam
http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00008AV4O/qid=1054336028/sr=1-2/ref=sr_1_3_2/202-3952878-8569447

Umm, I was talkin about where to find it here in Oman, but buying it though the net..? I don't think so... But thanks anyway! ;)

Originally posted by mf_alkhalili
Umm, I was talkin about where to find it here in Oman, but buying it though the net..? I don't think so... But thanks anyway! ;)


in the good old days I got a copy from one of the stores in Oman but now I am far away from home and I guess I should support somegames by buying them :D .