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Mal Allah bless them, and grave America, Ameen

According to Bush and Blairs administrations this act is called " Freeing Iraqis " and those doing such attrocities are referred to as " Freedom Fighters ".


What would you expect from a leader who tells you that " Sharon is the man of Peace ".


Would you still want to have any deal with such a person ?

Oh My God.
These pics are so tough.
To Hell for those who are involved in this.

Look this one in Iraq


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this is just getting worse

Whom to Blame????

Americans are taking every advantage of our fellow Arabs weekness and thye go for it, Before we start really blaming Americans and its British slave we should ask ourself who gave them a launchingpad? where are they fighting from?, where are the stock of weapons? If we Arabs denied that access of our land/water and Sky, I can assure you American will never find a ground to wage this Criminal Wars, see what Turkey has done denied access, Brussels and austria too refused to let Americans use their space, and yet we Arabs we welcome Kufars to wage War against our brothers and sisters in IRAQ, every time before start blaming Kufar we should Blame ourselves first and put those Kufar second. during the day of Judgement we will all be counted for all this criminal act we are part of the Killing and there is no deny about it.:weep:

The term that really makes me angry is Collateral Damage. Looked up the world Collateral in www.dictionary.com

Of a secondary nature; subordinate: collateral target damage from a bombing run.

All these innocent children are "damage of a secondary nature".

May Allah give their families Sabr. And may Allah have mercy on our souls.

I wonder where is Wanderer to see this and hear his comments. Although mistakes happen when you lunch a Tomahawk or Cruise Missile but this is unforgettable seen and will remain in our minds forever.
Where are the Bush and Blair’s promises that they wont target the civilians? Where is the promise’s when you drop 1500 Bombs on Iraq? How can you be the lawyer and prosecutor at the same time?

As I know many of you do not read the poems in Arts Sabla I wanted to share this peace with you after seeing the pictures I could not help myself but share my deepest pain in my own words.

So many cries children of God
So many deaths in the road
Horror
Unjust
Poor children angels of God suffering
Palestine we heard them crying
Iraq Babies are dying
Tears rolling where to hide my face
How can I tell my story when I have no trace
They live in bombarded place
What a life!!
Where to hide my tears I have no space

Shame on shame on us do we call ourselves men
How could you sleep?
When the night on Iraqi kids creep
No never think that on that day
God when he asks you did you pray
And then asks you for the Children of Palestine and Iraq and Chechnya and Bosnia what did you do.
Time for you to PAY.

From the bottom of my heart I send this to Sabla members .
I wrote it with my tears and to God I surrender

With sorrow from Dark Project

This is in Al-basara
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May Allah bless those angels, and in paradise Inn-Sha'a Allah.
May Allah show those who killed them thier black days in their life and settle them in hell :fire: :fire:

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to paradise inshallah
the americans say this is war and sh*t happens in war.
i say this is a war which should never have happened.


you see in CNN and BCC long coverage about two or three ameican or british soldiers deaths. while so far about 700 iraqi slodiers have ben killed but you never hear about cause nobody in the US and UK gives a sh*t. as if they're not humans too.

you see it in their movies too. few weeks ago i saw "black hawk down" about the americans in somalia. they show how brave the american soldiers are and how sad that they died saying that 23 americans lost their lives. and at the end they wrote btw more 1000 somalians were killed too. sick of this american bullsh*t.

"but you never hear about cause nobody in the US and UK gives a sh*t. as if they're not humans too."

What nonsense. Iraqi casualties are widely reported in the Western press, largely because those prosecuting the war want everyone to know that they're winning it.

Originally posted by Mephistopheles
What nonsense. Iraqi casualties are widely reported in the Western press, largely because those prosecuting the war want everyone to know that they're winning it.

ok mephisopheles since you've been watching the western press can you enlighten us with te number of iraqi casualities so far. both civilian and military.

No problem.

The US estimate that there were 600+ Iraqi casualties at Najah alone. UK challenger tanks outside Basra destroyed 14 Iraqi tanks, with no survivors. There were a number of Iraq soldiers killed at Umm Qasr, and also several dozen killed in Basra itself.

The US has bombed Republican Guard forces outside Baghdad, with several hundred troops killed.

The press conference given by an Iraqi minister in Baghdad is televised daily. He has claimed that, so far, 400 civilians have been killed and several thousand troops.

War is a bad thing. Very few people welcome the thought of people dying (cunning is, of course, an exception) but the West fully expects that there will be many people killed in this war. They do not expect to have a war in which no-one dies. What they would like, of course, is for Saddam to go into exile now so that no-one else will die. Sadly, that doesn't seem likely.

Latest information from a gentleman called Sahaf is the follwoing.

11 killed, 28 woulnded in Karbala
26 killed, 82 civilians woulnded in Babylon
26 killed, 60 wounded in Najaf
116 killed, 659 wounded in Basra
7 killed, 92 wounded in Baghdad.

that just proves my point.

few US and british slodiers dead and look at the amount of coverage.

houdred of iraqis dead but very little coverage. and not only they wanna ban aljazeera as well cause they showing the truth.
too embarassed by the truth. just like they bombed aljazeera's office in afghanistan.

Eh?

Your point was:

"while so far about 700 iraqi slodiers have ben killed but you never hear about cause nobody in the US and UK gives a sh*t. "

I have just proved to you that the West DOES report on Iraqi casualties, both from their their own and Iraqi sources.

As for banning Al Jazeera, it is against the Geneva Convention to show pictures where you can recognise prisoners and dead soldiers. Al Jazeera has ignored the Convention. Shouldn't be a surprise, I guess, when you consider Saddam's approach to the Geneva Convention over the years.

Originally posted by Mephistopheles
As for banning Al Jazeera, it is against the Geneva Convention to show pictures where you can recognise prisoners and dead soldiers. Al Jazeera has ignored the Convention. Shouldn't be a surprise, I guess, when you consider Saddam's approach to the Geneva Convention over the years.

US + UK went against the will of the UN. How are you going to punish them ?

Originally posted by Mephistopheles
Eh?

Your point was:

"while so far about 700 iraqi slodiers have ben killed but you never hear about cause nobody in the US and UK gives a sh*t. "

I have just proved to you that the West DOES report on Iraqi casualties, both from their their own and Iraqi sources.

As for banning Al Jazeera, it is against the Geneva Convention to show pictures where you can recognise prisoners and dead soldiers. Al Jazeera has ignored the Convention. Shouldn't be a surprise, I guess, when you consider Saddam's approach to the Geneva Convention over the years.

thank you to share your openions here with us,
Any way, talking about the geneva agreement, US & UK should know that this war was against the Geneva agreements, secondly, if you read clearly the geneva agreement, there is no law says that showing victims or prisoners are banned, the law said we must treat the prisoners in good way and take them as war prisoners. this war from the begining was illegal, so please you or US or UK dont have the right to talk about legality.

Anotherthing, what about the Taliban prisoners, are they under the genva agreement, were they treated well, there are many questions to US need to be answered, US is the only country have the right to talk about the legal and unlegal, while they dont apply it .
The Geneva agreement, said the country has the right to fight another country if has been threated, did Iraq threat US, did iraq threat other country NO, so this war is against the law, i hope you agree with us

"Americans are taking every advantage of our fellow Arabs weekness and thye go for it, Before we start really blaming Americans and its British slave we should ask ourself who gave them a launchingpad? where are they fighting from?, where are the stock of weapons? If we Arabs denied that access of our land/water and Sky, I can assure you American will never find a ground to wage this Criminal Wars, see what Turkey has done denied access, Brussels and austria too refused to let Americans use their space, and yet we Arabs we welcome Kufars to wage War against our brothers and sisters in IRAQ,"




Can you imagine the consequence of Post-war? Jut wait and watch the further catastrophe.

"US + UK went against the will of the UN. How are you going to punish them ?"

Action against Saddam was permitted under Resolution 1441 and numerous earlier Resolutions.

The fact that Russia and France declined to be involved is a function of their business relations with Saddam, for which they will forever be judged.

"if you read clearly the geneva agreement, there is no law says that showing victims or prisoners are banned"

Equality, thankyou for your view. However, the Geneva Convention explicitly states that POWs "must at all times be protected against acts of violence or intimidation and against insults and public curiosity".

"what about the Taliban prisoners"

The Geneva Convention does not apply to members of Terrorist Groups. The Taliban was not a government recognised by the US or UK (or, indeed, by very many people at all, including most Arab countries) and associated itself with Al Quada, a terrorist group linked to countless atrocities.

"did Iraq threat US, did iraq threat other country NO"

As part of the treaty bringing the 1991 Gulf War to an end, Saddam committed to destroying all WMD. In refusing to honour this committment, he made this current action inevitable.

"yet we Arabs we welcome Kufars to wage War against our brothers and sisters"

Shamsery, the war is against Saddam and his regime, not Iraqis. Most Arab leaders recognise that.

Where are the Bush and Blair’s promises that they wont target the civilians

They're not targeting civilians intentionally. Thank you!

Originally posted by Old_Glory
They're not targeting civilians intentionally. Thank you!

you're right i don't think they target civilians intentionally but the fact of the matter is many civilians are being killed everyday. enough is enough.

Action against Saddam was permitted under Resolution 1441 and numerous earlier Resolutions. Mephistopheles says...

Well The whole world almost have apposed war against Iraq and that’s why there were meetings and discussions.

The Security council was dead against it .
The United nations were dead against it.
The Inspectors were dead against it .
The Arab league was dead against it.
The Islamic countries were dead against it.

Who are the parties who were involved in 1441?? Why only US and Britain and Spain saw it fit to enter war and although the rest of the members were against it.

Originally posted by Dark Project


Who are the parties who were involved in 1441?? Why only US and Britain and Spain saw it fit to enter war and although the rest of the members were against it.


Oho ! very valid kuwaition but, you will never get an answer for this. It is certainly bejond the capacity of our Anglo-American / Israeli participants

Eh!! pardon me Desert -Sloth I forgot the son's of Bush's too