View Full Version : Dual sex rather than unisex!


Boss
17-03-03, 09:01 PM
Careful, Boss is here!




Well, my topic is one that is aomehow very sensitive. As we know that before Islam, women were worth almost nothing; men used to treat them like animals or an owned good. They used to be even inherited from a man to his brother if he dies, having no real or legal rights but her being alive.

Islam came (from about fourteen centuries) to give EQUAL rights for them, which are in fact, to every single idividual surely guaranteed by the Islamic law from cradle to grave!

Islam gave her rights that even the west, until the last century didnt give for his women.
One of these rights is holding property on her own, contracting with other persons, and seeling and buying on her own too. This right, which we regard now as a normal and old one, wasnt there in the west as i said until the last century or a little before while Islam haas brought them 14 20 years ago and more.
Of course there are other rights Islam guaranteed for Muslim women which I am not going to mention in here because that's not my topic.
I think most of you are aware of the contemporary move toward unisex clothes, shoes, actions and even hair styles. In other words, men and women now are trying to be equivelant in everything, they're trying to be one as to what they wear, do, and even now feel.
America and the west are indeed the leaders of this dangerous move, to the extent that sometimes you cant decide whether you are looking at a girl or a boy. Strange!
Although these people aim to bring a larger measure of equality between men and women, this has generated the idea of having men and women as IDENTICALS.

On the other hand, Islam, which gave women her rights earlier than others, disbeleives on unisex. It rather calls for dualsex. This means men and women are equal before Allah, that he created them to worship, and gave both legal rights. Yet, it kept them different in certain duties and it respected the relevant various differences of nature and function.
Women are naturally different from men and, whether or not Westerns and Americans beleive it, are not qualified to do men's roles and responsibilities.
To sum it all up, dualsex (having two seperate sexes each with slightly different roles and responsibilities and both with other rights and duties too) is an Islamic teaching for which we feel proud, and which we might in a few years be astonished seeing the west claiming it to be on of their (Discoveries of Modernization)
Meanwhile, unisex (having no difference at all between men and women) is NOT an Islamic teaching. It's rather a western one with aim of making the world immortal.



What do u think now?

Wanderer
17-03-03, 09:38 PM
Originally posted by Boss
Women are naturally different from men and, whether or not Westerns and Americans beleive it, are not qualified to do men's roles and responsibilities.

Women ARE naturally different from men.

What roles and responsibilities are they not qualified for ?

Bimzoori
17-03-03, 10:07 PM
Nice topic brother...



Originally posted by Boss
Careful, Boss is here!

Well, my topic is one that is aomehow very sensitive. As we know that before Islam, women were worth almost nothing; men used to treat them like animals or an owned good. They used to be even inherited from a man to his brother if he dies, having no real or legal rights but her being alive.



thats very true.. when we read about the status of women in the pre-Islamic era, we would be thankful to Islam that has elevated the status of women and approved of her having equal rights to men..

I have a pamphlet infront of me right now... its about Women rights in Islam.. I'll quote some points on the position of women in other religions:


In Budhism women are said to be the personification of evil.

Jews and Christians believed that women to be responsible for teh downfall of te human race, and considered menstruation and childbirth to be the consequences of a Divine curse..!!!

Until 1586, French Catholcs were still debating whether or not women possessed souls!!

Married women in Europe did not gain the right to own property, obtain a divorce or enter into their own contracts until the 19th century


When Islam started spreading, back in the 7th century, Muslim women were granted the right to own, inherit and dispose their own property.. they had the right to reject forced marriages, keep their own names and identities after marriage, initiate divorce and obtain an education..

Wanderer
17-03-03, 11:58 PM
Women of all faiths may drive in Rome. Same in Mecca ?

Arabian Princess
18-03-03, 08:27 AM
Women of all faith can drive in Oman, Eygypt, Jordan, UAE, Kuwait, Bahrain, Malyasia, Indonesia, and MANY MANY other Islamic country ..
so please wanderer, dont mix up facts ..

Navigator
18-03-03, 03:27 PM
Women of all faiths may drive in Rome. Same in Mecca ?

People of all faiths have brains , same in america ?

Boss
18-03-03, 08:23 PM
Mr. Wan
I really dont get your points.
plz clarify more. I cant understand the idea u r trying to express.

:confused:

Wanderer
18-03-03, 08:39 PM
Originally posted by Arabian Princess

so please wanderer, dont mix up facts ..

I didn't. What I posted is true.

If not, please correct me. If so, please state that too.

The keepers of your holy sites do not appear to be adhearing to your version of Islam.

Wanderer
18-03-03, 08:40 PM
Originally posted by Navigator
People of all faiths have brains , same in america ?

Yup, and we vote our leaders in and out.

Arabian Princess
19-03-03, 08:04 AM
ou mean whatever happens in Mecca is what is supposed to be Islam??

I wounder whatever happens in Vatican is supposed to be all about chritianity??

Big MO
19-03-03, 10:41 AM
ppl can we please ignore wanderer and get back to the topic.

Boss,
i think it's ppl choice how they wanna look.

Boss
19-03-03, 08:55 PM
"Careful, Boss is here!"




I feel very sorry for that. I really feel very disappointed reading the replies to my post that I spent hours preparing it.
Moderators: sorry but you r not doing what u r supposed to.
This will definately disappoint us.
Mr. Wnderer is twisting the topic into his own. plz Mr. Wan you can ur open ur own thread disscussing whatsoever u want. Leave my posts alone. And I promise u that I wont interfere in ur posts.

We r not kids to insult each other so plz either u participate with a good related post or u just ignore them and personally I would suggest you the second especially in my posts.

Thanx:(

Jumanjima
19-03-03, 11:44 PM
I'm honestly being curious here, i'm not trying to twist or insult anyone...

If the Quran says that women are equal to men (dualsex), then why is it taken away from them in some countries?? I don't understand if it is stated clearly why anyone would question or change it???

:lost:

Wanderer
19-03-03, 11:51 PM
Originally posted by Arabian Princess
ou mean whatever happens in Mecca is what is supposed to be Islam??

I wounder whatever happens in Vatican is supposed to be all about chritianity??

I don't know. I suspect that Italian civil law is less restrictive than Catholic law. Is KSA law more restrictive than Islamic law ?