I know this thread might sound silly, but I think teh idea behind it is intresting.

Normally when we dicuss a topic, we have conflicting views.
I bleive it is simply becuse there are two kinds of thinkings: first a person who beleives that what is tradition is best for him. Ofcourse how much this person sticks to the tradistion varies, but in general that person sticks more to the tradition.

The second perosn is a perosn who likes to think in a so called "modern" way. He likes to liberate himself/herself from the tradition and culture barriers. Again it varies from a person to another how much he is willing to dismiss from his tradiation.

Now the question, where do you stand here .. are you a perosn who loves to stick to the tradition you have .. or you like to adopt new ways of living espeiclaly if there was no harm in them regarding your religion.

I'm not the first type nor the second but i'm in between that's easly because somtimes i stick to certain traditions and be proud of them but that does not mean that i dont adopt new ways of living especially when there is no harm in these new ways of living regarding my religion.

leaving religion aside because InshAllah most of us are supposed to follow it .. you must be leaning towards one side.
check your beleifs in certain things, do you lean towrds following what you grow up hearing and doing .. or you tend to check how things are done the other way round!

Arby, I think my position goes without saying.:rolleyes:

no harm in confirming it rafy ;)

i believe that the traditional ways were meant for a certain time , and reflects the thinking of people in that period. i dont think it's suits our times at all now. am not saying that they are useless now , but they're just not for me. times have changed and we have to change along with it.

Yea traditions are from the past, they are good to use and bring up again when your getting married etc...Like stick to the traditions of getting married in a church and not in a hot air baloon...lol (in christianity)

But we are living in a 'modern' world where everything is changing and we cant stay living in the past...we have to move along with time.

Its nice to respect and appreciate your traditions that your family or society has but how will it benefit you in an ever changing world?:lost:

Personaly, I beleive the chalange is to keep the tradition and at the same help your self to engage seccessfuly in the modern world.
I could call my self a traditionalist. Most of my beleifs come from how my culture traditionaly operates. SOmetimes I try to look at the issue from a "modern" preception but I think because I was brought up this way I tend to lean towards the traditional way.

i think traditions are part of our lives and u cant chane the fact that if u dont use traditions urself u ll have to consider using in front others ... the situation maight force itself on urself! :confused:

as for me, im in between. i try to be a modern person but when it is tradition time i am a traditional person! im not contardicting myself but thats the way i am and i like both sides!!:gap:

Originally posted by Arabian Princess


Now the question, where do you stand here .. are you a perosn who loves to stick to the tradition you have .. or you like to adopt new ways of living espeiclaly if there was no harm in them regarding your religion. I love to stick to the traditions but this doesn't mean use the modern life

Good question Arabian Princess ..

Now to me tradition could be in thinking or in way of life or the way you dress..etc.
I think we are all traditional in a different ways and level.

Before diving into such a topic and before taking a decision whether to be a traditionalist or (up-dated) , personally I think that one should prior to that determine the kind of traditions he has.
For me, if this tradition is useful, has no conflict with Islam, no bad effects on me or others, i will never give it up. But if it lacks any of the previous-mentioned conditions, then i will have to think twice, perhaps thrice!
However, never will anyone be a completely traditionalist person. In other words, no one on earth can have the ability to live without updating himself, even with minor or trivial changes. Everyone MUST modernize himself, perhaps unfeelingly.
The thing is that we differ on aspects like: what, how much and how fast.
Unfortunately, almost all people now are running away and ignoring their traditions, rattling towards what they see new and interesting and miming others acts without taking into their consideration that these deeds might have a bad affect upon their whole society, not only them.

well dont know what to say ......... but all i want to say i'm between ......... traditionn in some cases and moderen in others ............. i got modren life but i love our tradition clothes .........:D .......... so i'm between as they said ..........
some ppl like to go in and some ppl like to go out we can make sth between both in out in out chacking all about .........:D

I am in between, taken the best from both worlds ;)

it would be intresting to know the position of some new member scince this thread is really old ;)

sometimes i am traditional and some times i am not :D like for my wedding I dont want to wear white puffy dress.. instead i want to wear Omani ;)

not really sure if this is what this thread is about as I didn't read the posts :D :p

If a choice must be made, then it would be the first. Though only for those reasonable and logical traditions...

example; I do prefer wearing the dishdasha over anything else; all the time except whem playing sports of course...

example; I do prefer wearing the dishdasha over anything else; all the time except whem playing sports of course...

this gives an impression that you are a traditionalist, but it always depends on why you would like to wear a dishdasha? because its simply comfortable or because you like to stick to the normal Omani custome.

BR, same goes to you .. from knowing you I think you are more towards being liberal in your ideas ;)

BR, same goes to you .. from knowing you I think you are more towards being liberal in your ideas ;)

really :confused: never knew that before :D

i like wearing dishdasha when i go to the mosque...

i guess thats it!

i HATE it when ppl make a circle and eat from the same huge plate all together :yuck:

....etc

i HATE it when ppl make a circle and eat from the same huge plate all together

ufff I miss those old days when we used to eat like this in my aunti's house :)

Am in between, don't like to be under a category: for sure am a traditionalist but always open to new ideas which can make of me a better person without being in conflict with my believes and attitudes.

I am very skeptical towards calling myself anything-ist, because simply I don't like being fitted into a label. People in general are much more complex than the labels they put on each other.

I also think it's pretty much established that everyone is against traditions which conflict with Islamic teachings, so I'll skip this part.

Now, when it comes to the neutral traditional stuff; I get pretty picky about it. You know, stuff like serving coffee before tea, how much coffee EXACTLY do you pour for guests and in what manner, how you should never put the little coffee cup (Finjan) down while it's ok if it's a little tea glass, when do you stand and when can you be more comfortable when entertaining guetsts...etc. I can go on and on hehe.

For example, I got kind of upset the other day when my brother felt it was OK for him to leave the Iftar table before his guest (he invited his friend for Iftar at the time.) You just never do that, I don't care if your stomach will blow up from eating, you sit and freakin' wait; eat or pretend to eat; because when you leave you then make him feel uncomfortable which may lead him to finish while he's still hungry, specially if you and the guest are the only people on the table who know each other. That was something my brother should have known.

Oh blessed, you are very much a traditionalist :D

loool, and I know .. the young generation need to know those manners! :D

I don't think I can describe myself as a traditionalist but at the same time I don't like to be called 'modern', cuz in Oman that's interpreted as someone who might as well be athiest. :rolleyes: I'm not at all against doing things the traditonal way; sometimes I actually like to. Things like the examples Blessed mentioned I don't mind cuz they don't really hurt anyone or go against my principles. But when it comes to other things (like the topics in the general Sabla lately :D ), I don't hesitate to throw traditional views out the window. I hate to make it sound like a fact but I think that adhering too strictly to traditional views holds ppl back from bettering themselves. That's like someone saying I don't wanna learn Maths cuz I can already read and write; basically refusing to consider another way of doing things cuz ppl are convinced that they're way is best, even when they've never had the chance to measure up to anything else!

I don't hesitate to throw traditional views out the window. I hate to make it sound like a fact but I think that adhering too strictly to traditional views holds ppl back from bettering themselves.

well I dont agree with you (obviously this is how it has been happenin lately in GS :D )
I think holding into your tradition makes you sure who you are, so when you go ahead in this ever confusing life, you have something that pulls you back .. you dont go with the flow and change who you are ;)

I think holding into your tradition makes you sure who you are, so when you go ahead in this ever confusing life, you have something that pulls you back .. you dont go with the flow and change who you are ;)I don't think so (no surprises there :D ). Holding on to traditions make you who society wants you to be, not necessarily what you want to be. It's so much easier for many ppl to do what everyone else would do in a certain situation, even if they don't necessarily think it's the best thing to do. I still think it's best to think for yourself, not constantly refer to unwritten guidelines that society has layed out.

this gives an impression that you are a traditionalist, but it always depends on why you would like to wear a dishdasha? because its simply comfortable or because you like to stick to the normal Omani custome.

comfortable? Well it is in a way.. but I always like to run and move fast; the disdasha doesnt help with that. So I guess its cause I like sticking to the normal Omani custome... :scratch:

As long as it does not go against religion, then I would be classified under this group. The second perosn is a perosn who likes to think in a so called "modern" way. He likes to liberate himself/herself from the tradition and culture barriers.

I am not at all traditional. :(

Clay smith

Nice thread in deed.
I am traditional and also modern so i do adopt the formula of moderation.
:D

I don't think so (no surprises there ). Holding on to traditions make you who society wants you to be, not necessarily what you want to be. It's so much easier for many ppl to do what everyone else would do in a certain situation, even if they don't necessarily think it's the best thing to do. I still think it's best to think for yourself, not constantly refer to unwritten guidelines that society has layed out.

that if you are talking to a person who would stay in the society all the time .. but for a person who might have an effect from other enviroment, being a traditionalist helps you remain who you are in an ever changing world ;)

I have no idea what i'm and i think i lean toward tradition more then the other. (can someone tell what i am!).. Balancing some of both would be more than perfect for me.


Blessed, i liked that coffee serving thinggie.

The way i see myself i think am a blend of both traditional and modern , i can be very modern in some issues and can get traditional in others.

<< 100% pure traditionalist! (what would u expect from a bedwin!).. i always try to make the new things follow the traditional things but not the other way around!

.. i can always figure out if the person into traditional or far away from them and thats by the way of discussing issues and matters. (assuming that most ppl being themselves here!)

..yo hitman.. eating from the same plate is the spirit of feeling full!.. when i eat alone i feel hungry... thats why i always invite someone to eat with me!

sometimes i am traditional and some times i am not :D like for my wedding I dont want to wear white puffy dress.. instead i want to wear Omani ;)


:Shock: since when?

I believe you can be a bit of both, it depends on the circumstances and what results you are expecting, I could be both depends on the occasion. For example, all though I think guys should know how to cook, I believe that women are the ones responsible for providing food for the family; this is me being very traditional. Being untraditional I guess will be the way I like to be independent, like changing tires, or fix things around the house. At the end I don’t think being either is bad, as long you can avoid the extreme.

i can always figure out if the person into traditional or far away from them and thats by the way of discussing issues and matters. (assuming that most ppl being themselves here!)So what would you say I am? :laugh:

I have a feeling I know what's coming but I'm sure I can handle it ;)

2MUCHAT, i respect ur opinion, but i cant eat from a plate which others put their hands into...who knows they washed their hands properly or not!

I think that i am too proud of my tradition, culture and religion dont get me wrong i am not an extermist or anything but i always feel that i have to defend and protect what i am originally. I can say that i have a balance of both learn from the new and save the old.

Modernization maybe the way to go in this day and age but it does not mean that everything considered 'modern' is good....we have roots that go way beyond the times and its up to us to maintain and keep it.

Moderation of both is the key

i believe that the traditional ways were meant for a certain time , and reflects the thinking of people in that period. i dont think it's suits our times at all now. am not saying that they are useless now , but they're just not for me. times have changed and we have to change along with it.



Well expressed NaBHaN.


Personally I don't know what the word 'TRADITIONAL' means ?


I badly need definition in order to contribute to the thread though the question undoubtedly meaningful.




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i'd say abit of both, but mostly leaning towards the modern world more than anything, but still a few traces of tradition are left in me.. VERY LITTLE though...
modern is good, as long as u still know where u came from.. at least for me..

Now the question, where do you stand here .

you like to adopt new ways of living espeiclaly if there was no harm in them regarding your religion.and CULTURE

I i'm more like this person.

So what would you say I am? :laugh:

I have a feeling I know what's coming but I'm sure I can handle it ;)

emm.. i would say 30%.. i guess thats enough for u lol.. dont hate me plz :p


2MUCHAT, i respect ur opinion, but i cant eat from a plate which others put their hands into...who knows they washed their hands properly or not!

.. urs respected too Hitman.. the way i was raised is too wash the hands before eating which i suppose all were raised the same.. and with adults like us always we make sure that hands washed before eating..

thnx Hitman.

Well am not so much of a traditionalist nope! It depends on which situations ur talking abt i am in between but i think i more leaning towards the 2nd one...I do keep the sensible and logical tradaitions and the ones that are just too...OH GOD this is from the stone age i throw them in the dustbin...and move into modernization

emm.. i would say 30%.. i guess thats enough for u lol.. dont hate me plz :p
30%? That's not too bad. I can live with that :D

OK here is one traditin that i really DONT like! you Go to 3azaa (funeral) and there are 200 ppl there , why do we have to shake hands with each individual sitting there!!!!!!!!..if you dont do it..everybody gives you those looks that you are being rude, Its so tiring ! why can't they settle with a salam.A. whats the point of this tradition.

Not only that, you shake hands when coming in and when leaving !!!!!

30%? That's not too bad. I can live with that :D


.. im 100% confiedent that u can Diva.. the most important is how to deal with life not how life wants to deal with it!

Not only that, you shake hands when coming in and when leaving !!!!!


.. huh!.. when leaving too!.. maybe women got different approach in ur place!.. i know it's only once u arrive for both women and men.

.. i think that habit is good in terms of wellcoming ppl coz u know they r other ppl coming from different places that they dont know each other so it's a chance to get ppl know each other and comfort each other in that sad moment which they really do need it at such time.

.. beside u dont have to pay a single red penny for shaking hands... unless u find it too much to shake hands ;)

maybe women got different approach in ur place!.. i know it's only once u arrive for both women and men.

No its not only in my family, its a thing of ppl in muscat, its a muscati tradition.

. beside u dont have to pay a single red penny for shaking hands... unless u find it too much to shake hands
you are always too much with your replies :mmhmm: , The thing is i've been to 3aza couple of days ago, the hall was filled with so many ppl, after shaking hands with half of the ppl , i was about to faint , the lady who was shaking my hand held me, i was dizzy!! its tiring !

you are always too much with your replies :mmhmm: , The thing is i've been to 3aza couple of days ago, the hall was filled with so many ppl, after shaking hands with half of the ppl , i was about to faint , the lady who was shaking my hand held me, i was dizzy!! its tiring !


.. well maybe u were just tired due to fasting and stuff.. and beside that u get ur ajir double for that!.. i guess! (hope thats not too much this time :) )

I wouldn't put myself in one category. I'm neither too much into traditions, nor completely away from them.

I keep those that I think are useful and show manners, like the example blessed has given. But there are many things that I would never go with or care about because I don't think that it really fits with our lifestyle now, or simply because I don't understand them. Don't get me wrong, there are many things that I respect and follow, but it has to make sense to me, and it has to fit the way things are nowadays.

As I grow older I seem to cling to past strongly.

Salamz,

I am a Modernised Religious Traditinalist.

PeAcE!i!

I have great respect for tradition. Without it, there'd be nothing to break :D

I am a transvestite.

I have great respect for tradition. Without it, there'd be nothing to break :D

I am a transvestite.
it would be easy to spot u!

hello

I would say i am in between, and plus it depends what sort of things that i would be facing for me to follow either the tradition or be against it.

Cause i believe that still there are some good things in the tradition is nice to be kept as they are and untouched and not to be changed.

and i would be more against the tradition if the religion proves that it was a wrong act and we should not follow it.


but back again it all depends on the situation. :angel: :love: :cute: :3mani:

Taking extremes is silly. 'If it aint broke dont fix it' yes is true is applicable in many instances, but not all. I think life is about constantly improving one's self and the environment around you. Being a complete traditionalist, thats static, nothing gets done. Going way out 'modern' is silly, because essentially you are just following trends set by others. Essentially we need to forge our own path. I cant remember the words, but one member put it as 'humming to your own tune' or something. Thanks, member ;)

Taking extremes is silly. 'If it aint broke dont fix it' yes is true is applicable in many instances, but not all. I think life is about constantly improving one's self and the environment around you. Being a complete traditionalist, thats static, nothing gets done. Going way out 'modern' is silly, because essentially you are just following trends set by others. Essentially we need to forge our own path. I cant remember the words, but one member put it as 'humming to your own tune' or something. Thanks, member ;) Some people can't answer a simple question can they? http://instagiber.net/smiliesdotcom/contrib/edoom/theyareontome.gif http://instagiber.net/smiliesdotcom/otn/wink/voldar02.gif

I'm "mu'7a'9ram"!

Anyone need translation PM me.

icey... are you this or that.. you cannot be thisat I know it kinda sounds politically correct, and it makes you feel loved by everyone safe answer that is.. but if everyone answered everything this way, life would be boring. NOT YOU icey.. edit the post above man.. Even George Bush said it: "you are either with us or with the terrorist"
I would like to see people who are hardcore opinionated fellas... Not scared of saying I am this and if you do not like it here is how I prove you wrong. Real discussions.. Whatever happened to that?

I’m in love with tradition & heritage thingy.. I used to share and practise many of what I inherited of habits thoughout .. but last few years I see my self moving away to more present and switching on to ‘ no time for lots of that’ to be involve in….

Overall, my conservative side of personality tends to relate me more towrds tradition and keep on doing things as ‘they were’ and avoid the curse coming from my surrounding ….. On other hand, the nature of my work pulls me to other side wher I should reduce the traditionalous side of me ..cus work keeps me quite busy and watch out for the time…

Technology as I believe plays a big role in reduce the traditional part in us, everything is going fast through cell phones..SMS…lms…Vms..net…remote control… pressing few buttons on ur PC will save many chats with ur friends… no need to go on ur top of ur house to see if the ‘ hilal of the month’ : ‘ the crescent’ is there or not … sit down .. easy info through ur phone …..

Some ppl putting the tradition as a form or part of their identity.. yeah ok.. but believe me its too tough cus traditions easy change through one generation unlike the identity…

Salamz,

The problem is when we stick more to our tradition than our religion. It is happening everywhere!

Peace out!

icey... are you this or that.. you cannot be thisat I know it kinda sounds politically correct, and it makes you feel loved by everyone safe answer that is.. but if everyone answered everything this way, life would be boring. NOT YOU icey.. edit the post above man.. Even George Bush said it: "you are either with us or with the terrorist"
I would like to see people who are hardcore opinionated fellas... Not scared of saying I am this and if you do not like it here is how I prove you wrong. Real discussions.. Whatever happened to that?

Hardcore opinionated fellas is exactly what we dont need. Its wrong to ever take extremes. Moderation is the key to success, because, in every situation, there are merits to both sides. THe trick is to find hte right balance.

@phahade- too true!

Remember the 2nd debate "Bush-Al Bore" when both were so nice to each other, and they were like Oh yeah I agree with you, I also think "notice not even use of the word but"

What was the crowd response?

WTF

yes sir, that was their response as voters stopped knowing who to vote for it becomes dull, repetitive and boring.

Greatest concepts are driven by emotional people who were welling to risk it all to defend their points .. Take Dr. E as in example and look at life long arguments. Being an extremist does not mean that I would fail to see your point, it does not mean that I would deny your right to express yourself, and it does not mean that we live in a fallujah "my new terminology for the word jungle"

I like to see black and white, I do not mind the color gray.. but when it is the dominating color we call that gloomy!