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Strong Heart 07-02-01, 11:27 PM Hi everyone as a student abroad what the problems you faced?. Dont you think these problems should be discussed and those who concerned with scholarship should know them.
What about the system of teaching inthe university do the system back home helped you to cop up with system inthe university.
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Miss Smiler 09-02-01, 05:17 AM Hi strong heart....
about the problems that i personally face it here is that some people get difficulty to understand us....for example they always looking at us as we are juhala (not educated people).. some of them don't recpict us... they don't look to our personality they judge us by looking to the colour of skin, covering our hair(which is odd to them)...they will not speak to us (as if we do bite) unless we started the conversation....even if we do start they will replay and then STOP for ever .....they are not intrested to know about us...some of them not friendly..and they never smile to you even if you did and smile to them...some of them do smile but not all of them... i found that the old people they are soooo friendly and they do like to know more about us...but the young generation (in our age) not at all they even don't say Hi
we don't loss anything they are always the loser cuz they don't know what they missing...when they become old they will realize that the chance to know about cultures was infront of them and they loose it
ooh about the education system in our country it is helpful somehow, if only they teach us how the system is in universites, give us a clow in what will happen, and tips to write assignment...then i think everyone can cope
that was my opinion :)
HAVE A NICE DAY
well, yes it is very difficult to coupe with these people..but about the preparation that we had to go to university at school i will give it a mark of 2 out of 10..
at school we didn't had the oppertunity to express our opinions..we were always afraid of the teacher if we said something upsets her in the discussion..
here in the uk the students and the lecturer are like friends they can express thier thoughts in any way they want..they were tought at school to say whatever they think of..
this is my comment..
in any way it is not very bad to study abroad..it is a good experience..
God bless you all :)
Kamakazy 17-04-01, 10:01 AM moved
Arabian Princess 17-04-01, 12:46 PM Well .. I am still a student abroad .. and from my experience .. you learn alot from studying abroad that u will never ever learn when you are at your own home ..
it is a very long argument .. and I cant write much coz I am rushing for a class .. but then I will write more next time .. just wanted to wake the topic again :)
Arabian Princess 18-04-01, 07:51 AM Well .. Studying abroad is a major change in your life .. It can be for the good or for the bad .. depends how you deal with situations ..
Difficulties are everywhere .. but when u study abroad .. u face these difficulties by your own and you have to solve them by your own too .. which gives alot of experience on how to handel life .. some people fail to solve teh problems which might affect thier lives .. but at the same time they must learn teh lesson coming out of these difficulties ..
For me .. I have learnt way alot then I expected .. I learned alot about a very new culture that I have never knew before .. I learnt to appreciate what my country has way more and more .. I learnt to be dependent .. but at the same .. I dont deny that I miss the warmeth of being surronded by family and close ones.
I think if I kept on talking on what I have learnt I will not finish .. Leave it for all of u now to share what you learnt abroad !
Dimensional Creep 18-04-01, 01:35 PM wallah ana 3andi one problem only here : I miss my mom's cooking.....bas tadleee3 3a'7afeeeeffff... everything else is going perfect... I have problem and difficulties of course, but I think I am lucky to have them cause they keep me worried and hence push me forward.... isn't that what life all bout....
By the way, Ya 7'ama3ah... if anyone knows how to make Kabsah, kabooooli please tell me cause I am about to wear out.....
Alkaser001 19-04-01, 09:32 PM 1- Educational Problem:
As a student abroad , i would say the only thing that didn't help me to keep up at the University's System is that we have learned everything in Mermorizing back home rather than practicing and observing with our own hands and using our minds to explain theories.
i am sure u all get what i am saying?
About the relationships and how easy you could get a friend : i totally agree with Miss smilller.
they treat you as a real stranger, no matter how u talk to them , no matter how much you try to be nice to them and being respactful as well.
and the secret that i could get is , you have to treat them as if you aren't seeking for their relationship , they will get attractive to you. be so mean to them, wallah i did it and it worked very well..:P:P
anywaYz, Living abroad isn't that different from being living back home , at first it is really hard to communicate and i guess it takes hell alot of time to know the culture , as time goes by, you will get used to it as if you are living back home.;)
Omania18 20-04-01, 12:52 AM well,I'm a student abroad as well in the Uk.The truth is that what miss smiler was true but differs from area to area in the Uk.last year I was in a smaller town actually its known for tourism and ppl there were lovely everybody was nice .I think the fact that ppl there got used seeing ppl from all over the world made them more open to accepting ppl.but where I am now it's a nightmare there arent much arabs (ofcourse that makes it even harder) ppl in my course a lot of them don't bother sayin hi or just smilin I swear the guy would have just done a 6 session lab with me he sees me outside class he doenst even smile .and why it's becuase I m not English. After I moved here for the first few months I was seriously depressed I used walk home alone go and eat alone I was alone and it made me soooooo bad I hated everything they say they are not racist but they r.Well, things r gettin better caused I learned how to b able to live alone now I have some friends from some Eurpoean countries and AMerica.
Very suprisngly there was an Omani girl here which used live in the same hall as me and when I knew that I was happy and thought we'd be friends but the girl seemed like she prefers hangin out with the English girls and prefers havin them although she didn't say it but I felt it.ANd for the first time I understood what they meant by culture shock the girl is confused she still is when we ever meet she says things about her becommin religous and all that and guess what always accidently I find her doin the oppisite I met her friend which has a culture shock herself which I discovered while we were sitting in the kitchen one day I won't go through details.anyway it is really hard being away from home.It is ofcourse a good experience to learn how to take care of urself but it is hard.
Anyways English are known to be a not friendly nation
Dimensional Creep 20-04-01, 05:05 AM please i asked you before and here i am asking again: Does anyone know how to make kabsah?? I am very serious!!!!! hey girls help me out.... I am wearing out...... I need some real food.......
OMANIA:
why don't you initiate the hi thing instead of waiting for people to say hi? I think that would work... cause you gotta show people how nice you are in order to feel comfortable... I mean most americans and english people feel scared to talk to arabian girls due to their limited knowlodge about islam... they think if they talk to you, you will be upset and stuff... just through your hi's everywhere I am sure everyone one will appreciate that......yallah 3ad your turn to help me and tell me how to make kabsah.... allah yorthee aleeekkkkeeeeee.....
Bimzoori 20-04-01, 08:32 AM Hi every one!!
Subhana Allah, I agry with every thing arbprncs says..we share the same ideas :)
Anywayz, I would definitley encourage other ppl to study abroad. Apart from aquiring high standards of knowledge, you also learn how depend on yourself. You are no longer your mom&dad's spoilt child..BUT..no matter how the environment is, you should always keep in mind that you are MUSLIMS and Omanis..you should adhere to your high morals and give westners a good impression about Islam and Arabs.
Infact, being a good Muslim abroad is a very good way o attracting people to Islam. I really feel proud of myself as I walk with my Hijab between people who lost their dignity. With my hijab, I know that people will not judge me according to my looks, but according to my morals and inner beuaty. I really feel heartbroken whenever I hear that some shababz who study abroad go to night clubs and bars and..and..and..you name it! May Allah protect us from deviating..May Allah guide us and enlighten our paths..Ameen.
But now, the big question is, what does society think of girls who study abraod?? As far as I know, its a very controversial issue and many families refuse to let their daughters study abroad. what are you personal thoughts on this?
Bimzoori 20-04-01, 08:38 AM Oh, I forgot to give you the recipe for kabooli..Okay I'm not an expert but I'll tell you what I know:
1- Add seasoning + ginger+ garlic to meat and boil it untill its well made ( you should end up with meat and meat soup)
Tell you what, I'm not quite sure I dont want to give you wrong information, so I'll get back as soon as I can.
sorry!
Omania18 20-04-01, 05:11 PM It's not that I don't say hi .I'm a very social person I talk to ppl on buses or trains and have no problem with that .My friend even once told me "God I can't believe this u talk to anyone with no problems on how to even start talkin with them".the problem is that the ppl in my uni are stuck ups(as ppl are known with that in the South) and amazingly ppl I know from outside the uni talk to me and even call me sometimes .Beleive me u will not find someone who talks as much as I do I can't shut my mouth sometimes but the thing with ppl here is that if U r not English then u don't fit .(by the way old ladies are nice they telll u thier life story in one go :).About the Kabsa or Machboos I'll give u the recipe later I need to get on with my report wish me luck guys and gals .
Alkaser001 20-04-01, 08:07 PM you said:
(as ppl are known with that in the South)
what do u mean???......:)
Omania18 20-04-01, 08:50 PM I meant the South of England.ppl are known here to be snobish and stuck up.
apparently all the student abroad share the same problems,missing home,good food and relashionship.
what i have learnd abroad is that you can't make people liking you if they don't want,in the begenning i tried to be nice and cool with everybody like you omania18,but it doesn't work,as i was a litle bit angry ,i decided to be very snobby,and to show them that i can beat them in their own contry,so i worked better than them,but.. it doesn't work too,they just hate me more"how an arab girl could be as good as us??",in fact i m in a very conservative school,so i gave up looking for friends in my university.
the good surprise came from my neiberhood,my best friend is living at the same floor,and with her,i defnitly discover how the french are cool ,open minded and intersting,it's a really good experience,i m learning thousand of things,now i can enjoy the beauty of paris,the frensh culture,and the... arab one,there are so many arabic lectures,exhibitions,movies,book show ,and even an "arabic institut"with an amazing library.
i have to go now,to be continued,
Omania18 21-04-01, 03:13 PM Hi there.I guess what u say is true I've said that I've found ppl outside the uni or outside my course who were very very friendly.I find Americans , Eurpoens particulary friendly.And I've learned another thing I've learned how to manage things even if I was alone I've learned that I could enjoy things even if I was doin them by myself .I think this is something good in a way .Well, I like it here sometimes becuase I control my life here I do what suits me when it suits me.The place I'm livin in is mine whether it's tidy or a mess I choose ( ofcourse I prefer it tidy but u know what I mean ) I like the fact that I pay my bills pay the rent wash my own clothes Eat whenever I feel like eating .I think studying abroad is a good experience and I'm happy that I didn't miss it .I've learned loads of things .i actually discovered who I am exactly and my personality is much clearer for me.BUt I have to say at the moment I miss home so much and I totally agree with the saying NOTHING IS BETTER THAN HOME " GO EAST GO WEST HOME IS THE BEST"
i agree with what you said at 200%;since i m abroad i really grew up,i think that now i can handel and manage evry problem, even if i still getv some troubles with the phone bill....
but at that moment i m missing my family too much, that's why i m a so good client for the phone company...,"home sweet home" sometimes i just dream about my dear room , my bed,the sunlight through the window,so usually i say"be strong you are very lucky to be her, just think about those who wanna be at your place" but a few minutes after,i start getting weak and all that i want is come back home.
do you have any method to feel better when you are home sick???apart of drinking,smoking,drugs...( i m kidding ;)
Bimzoori 22-04-01, 05:59 AM Salam to all,
well in my opinion, the best way of avoiding the terrible feeling of being hoemsick is to change the weather. I mean, go for a walk, hang out with your friends, papmer yourself with some ice cream or hot chocolate! You should also remember that it was your choice to study abroad. It is a big challenge and you have to be strong enough to confront it. Another thing, praying to Allah makes you feel that you're not alone in this world, and that no matter how far away you are from your family, there is always Someone who sees you and listens to you.
Good luck to all of you and inshalla you'll be able to get over all the obstacles, Inshalla.
Omania18 22-04-01, 04:00 PM Dearest reena.I know it's very hard sometimes I get in this very very bad moods especially that I haven't been hom for 4 months now and I still have 2 months to go :( .I'll tell u what I do when I get these moods :
1.I read Quraan or du3aa
2.I try to find some1 to go out with like maybe just down town or something.
3.I call my arab friends (cos speaking the language makes me feel better)
4.I call my mom
5.I call anyone I really love or close to from home.
6.this might sound strange but sometimes when I'm dpressed I go and take a shower
I know it is still hard and sometimes everything gets over my head and I feel just terribly bad coz it's exactly as u say I miss everyone and everything I miss the atmosphere of being home .I miss my family the most .I miss fighting with my sisters .But all I can say is when I do these are the things I usually do and seriuosly the best thing is to read quraan and u will feel much more reliefed .:)
(u can e-mail me anytime dear as well I absoulty know how u feel)
bimzoori, i share with you the hot chocolate and ice cream stuff ;) you know why: cause when i finish the huge ice cream i feel guilty so i try to find a solution to lost all what i eat,so i forget the other sad things :)
omania18,i m really thankful,just the fact that now i know that there is somebody else who feel exactly like me ,make me feel less lonely,unfortuntly reading kuran doesn't get the same effect on me,it's remind me my country ,my grand parents,it's make me think that all the things in this world are not important"el doonia tafnaa" so all i wanna do is spending the time god allow me near the persons i love.
but i never thought about the shower,it's might be a good idea i will try ,you were right about calling friends,and family ,it's very helpful.
you know try to think about this 2 months as "the last 2 months" and then....you will see your family,fight with your sisters :) ,also it will be (i hope ) sunny months,so we usually feel less depressed,surely less than ramadan,eid el fitr and eid el adha,there are the worst for me.
however if i find sometimes the time going too long,i will e-mail you ,as you can e-mail me too,i m just at the other side of the sea :)
Omania18 23-04-01, 10:27 AM Hi there.I'm happy that u r feelin a bit better.Well, as u said at those ocassion u feel bad and all that.BUt I usually try and find ppl who share the same things so I could have a good time with them.I really hope those two months fly by quickly (hopefully sunny) although we had bad weather the past few days.And inshallah I'll be home sweeet home
Jadgaliya 24-04-01, 05:53 PM Dimmensional creep..
do u know how to start the cooking first of all?? do all the necessary things just like when u r going to cook curry.. then put ur chiken in and let it boil until u feel the chiken is ready.. then put the rice into the curry or whatever u wanna call it.. let it boil until the the water is gone (when the holes start appearing).. then take it off the stove and put it in the oven for 10-15 minutes.. and there u will have ur qabooli.. halaktna abooy mn kithir ma tis2al.. i hope u have a pleasant meal..
Dimensional Creep 30-04-01, 04:16 AM wallah trah ma kasarty ya bint al ajaweeeeeed..... thank you very much jedaliyah ( sorry if i wrote your name wrong)..... la kin aboy shoy shoy 3aleeena , showayah wa tjeee '6orbeeni box a7san...... just kidding.... i was insisting in getting the reciepe cause I am sick of eating this animals food....
Jadgaliya 30-04-01, 07:51 PM i hope u had a good meal if u DID cook.. and if u didnt then go and cook.. cut out on all the crap u eat in fast food restaurants.. or all that junk u heat in microwaves.. as u know.. the radiowaves or whatever u call them arent very good for u mate.. need any more recipes?? :)
patriot 09-05-01, 12:50 PM i am still studying abroad and yes true there are
alot pf things that i have learnt from this expereince
i could say that i knew real life here, responsibility
and stuff...
yes i did face some problems i even thought of going back home, but then, i had to take the challenge and get through it...
we(me and my freinds) got bad treatment from the local
students, we were served really bad food, transprtation was really difficult and calling home was more difficult
but al hamdulillah we got through that all...
it is the first few days which are difficulut but once you get used to the place with good freinds then everything will go on fine..
well, whati have studies back home didn't help me much
if not at all, medium and methods are different...
(i talked about that in the post ARE WE ON THE RIGHT TRACK)
all the best
Jadgaliya 10-05-01, 01:15 AM i am a student in a country far away from oman.. i enjoy this place a lot.. i have to admitt i really miss home, but this is what my life will be for the next few years, and i have come to accept it.. everything here is wonderful.. it almost feels like home now.. i have GREAT friends.. they respect the society i come from.. and they dont try to interfere with how i was brought up.. they respect our islamic culture and traditions, and want to know about it.. i dont see y some of the students who go to study abroad face problems with making friends.. maybe they just face the wrong type of ppl (if there's such a thing).. but give them (the westerners) some credit.. they r very nice.. they never said anything bad about us.. they get to respect u more when they know more about u.. so its how u act that makes them want to talk to u..
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