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Trnaslation:"O you who believe! if an evil-doer comes to you with a report, look carefully into it, lest you harm a people in ignorance, then be sorry for what you have done."[Quran 49:6]
Though this topic could have been discussed in Religion Sabla from an Islamic focus, I put in here so we can view the topic from a social point of view.. and see how spreading false infomation can break our society apart.. and can cause great damage even between people of the same family..
wallah I cant stresss on how much damage can result from passing flase infomation and spreading them amongst others.. this is why I call it the disease of the community..
a message to all: make sure you evluate whatever news you hear about a person before you make any judgement on him/her..
I'll get back with my points sooooon..
Bimzoori 22-02-03, 06:32 AM maybe.. maybe not.. but the least we can do is try to minimize the effects of the disease.. by perhaps trying to avoid it in the first place...
How?!
it all starts with you.. you cant control people's actions.. but you can certainly control yours.. you can control your tounge.. you have the full ability to chose what to pass to poeple and what not to..
There are some poeple who devour and enjoy eating their brothers/sisters dead meat by backbiting them and talking evil behind their backs.. and this is where the problem starts.. so if we can stop this (by controlling our tongues ofcourse), then half the problem will be solved...
One person will not make a significant change//.. so we've all got to work together as a community.. try to spread the message amongst people living around you.. try to stop them once they start on their meals.. and if you cant.. then dont join them in what they say.. close your ears.. and do not make things worse by spreading what they have said to other people..
This such a vast topic.. and I still have more to comment on it.. however I'd like to see what you have in mind about it before I continue..
Arabian Princess 22-02-03, 08:11 AM Excellent topic bimmy ...
Infact is it is a serious diseas and every human being should stop it!!
What makes it worse is when the information spread is about someone's honor. Example, the reputation of a girl and how stright she is. A small word could certainly ruin her life and the problem increases is when we continue passing information we dont even know is true!
The soloution starts by our selves. We should start educating ourselves, our family and ou community. There is a proverb: if everyone cleans thier yard, the road will be clean!
Navy_boy 22-02-03, 04:50 PM this is common in our society as u said
it's been normal thing to talk about ppl while their absence
and ppl enjoy that ,,
to stop that start with yrself by being convinced ((moqtana3)) that is bad thing what u r doing ,,
then when u sit with friends & notice they start to do it >> u gotta do 2 things
1- ask them to stop talking about those ppl
2- leave them if they didn't stop ..
ppl tend to do that in many places like offices , or women meetings,,etc
The soloution starts by our selves. We should start educating ourselves, our family and ou community. There is a proverb: if everyone cleans thier yard, the road will be clean!
very true ,,, but ppl r different ,, some will just ignore & keep doing it even knowing it is bad
Bimzoori 24-02-03, 01:00 PM sub7an Allah! If this topic was about bf/gf or about love and relationships..it would have gotten more replies..
anyways.. I'll continue posting my points...
Ok, so far we mentioned:
1- We should try to control our tongues and try not to talk about people behind their backs.. because this is how rumours start.. so we should try to reduce theflae rather than add more fuel to it..
Another thing to consider is what the Aya has mentioned: and that is to look carefully into a report before we issue any judgments on a person.. dont go believing every thing you're told, unless you've witnessed it yourself.. or at least you have a good proof that backs it up.. and I add my voice to AP that the worst type of rumours that can be spread are those that are related to a person's honor..
Arabian Princess 24-02-03, 01:47 PM dont go believing every thing you're told, unless you've witnessed it yourself.. or at least you have a good proof that backs it up..
I agree with you in this but I would also want to add, why should we care what the other person did and why he did it??? its his own problem as long as it does not hurt us!!
do you know that if you spread a rumoer about a person commiting adultry (qathf al mo2minat al salihat) and you dont have other 3 witnessess idealy you are supposed to get the same punishment she/he was supposed to get!! even if it is true!! that shows how serious is this matter and how lightly we are taking it!!
Originally posted by Bimzoori
sub7an Allah! If this topic was about bf/gf or about love and relationships..it would have gotten more replies..
This is true !
Good topic Bimi and it's practiced in our society alot, and I would like to mention the reason behind such sick behaviour.
1. Free time, when people have alot of free time they tend to use it for gatherings and talking about this and that.
2. Weak faith which makes the person away from Allah and follow Satan idea's.
3. Lack of education in the Islamic basic principles.
4. Lack of supervision from parents.
5. Having bad friends.
Dark Project 26-02-03, 06:44 PM great topic Bimzoori !!
I did read a story of Imam Al Shafi who used to send gifts personally to people neighbors and they wondered why.He uses to tell them " I heard that you were talking behind my back and the (Thawab) reward from God is I get all your reward so I thought I can give you this present to thank you for the great reward you gave me "
Good thinking don’t you think?
Wanderer 28-02-03, 12:39 AM I'm sorry, aren't you the very same people crying out that the US is gonna do this and the US is gonna do that, and the US just wants Iraq's oil and will colonize Iraq, and give the land to Israel, and on and on ?
Isn't this "passing flase infomation and spreading them amongst others ... the disease of the community "
Bimzoori 28-02-03, 02:00 AM Originally posted by Wanderer
I'm sorry, aren't you the very same people crying out that the US is gonna do this and the US is gonna do that, and the US just wants Iraq's oil and will colonize Iraq, and give the land to Israel, and on and on ?
Isn't this "passing flase infomation and spreading them amongst others ... the disease of the community "
I would call this following the latest news, studying the current situation and making deductions (by experts on the field) then proposing these ideas to the public (thru the media) where they become open to discussions and debates..
Wanderer 28-02-03, 02:45 AM Originally posted by Bimzoori
I would call this following the latest news, studying the current situation and making deductions (by experts on the field) then proposing these ideas to the public (thru the media) where they become open to discussions and debates..
Oh, have you heard the latest about the lady 3 houses down. I heard from one of her friends that ...
Now it seems to me that if a woman is going out alone at 10 pm she must be ...
My best friend has seen this behaviour before and you know what ? The woman was ...
Let's ask Desi if she has seen this, she knows everything going on around here.
Coffee anyone, now have a seat and listen to this ...
Same thing, Bimzoori. Call it what you like, printing it doesn't make it any more reliable.
Nice Topic..
I tend to find this Deilma alot nowaday..Somehow the number had increased as well with men...who in the past used not to have this habit that much!
A wise person will easly know that this habit creats problems and misunderstanding ALot! -Hate,missunderstand,prejudge etc.. all these bad things occurs after it..
I will simply say ...the cause is from the amount of Free time or the free time people creat for themselves and not filling it with an appropriate thing. Noone likes for his name to be mentioned in a bad way so we should as well not do it with others!
Subhanna alla..As if there isnt all those stuff around us to keep on focusing on..
by wanderer...I'm sorry, aren't you the very same people crying out that the US is gonna do this and the US is gonna do that, and the US just wants Iraq's oil and will colonize Iraq, and give the land to Israel, and on and on ?
Some how Wand. you give things more than it has to take..try to limit your way of thinking..cause i simply think you are mixing up things together!
That’s something I must agree with you Bim, spreading what is not really true.. is one hell of a bad cause of many problems.
I just can’t seem to understand why would ppl really waste their time, kill their energy and talk about what they hear from someone and than start spreading it before even making sure if it is true or not!!!
Well sure sure, you would hear it from a lot of ppl ... some part could be true but 90% majority of the time is the add up tends to happen when it comes from more than one person.
The best way to know the real truth is asking that person believe me that would save us from so many problems.
The Quran has mentioned it but yet we are to dame BLIND or Stupid to understand it.. but we are very much ready to just spread what its not right.....!!
How would you feel if you hear ppl talking false about you, its not something you want to really know or experience... because living in such a thing is the last thing one needs.... as they say ask the experienced and don’t ask the doctor!!!!
Well...people talk about other ppl (obviously not a good thing), and those people who were talked about in return get hurt (no need to explain how).
But with the situation with US, we are ones who are getting hurt here.... (again no comment on how!!!!! unless u want me to list the damage caused by fasle assumptions by the US)---> arabs are terorists, arabs hold weapons, which can be used in illegal ways. etc etc etc....bla bla bla, all this rubbish being sayed about us, and u say that we have no excuse for explaining the things the US is doing to us!
It's enough that we couldnt enjooy Eid here in the UK because someone was threatning to attack an airport or sth on the sdame days, and emediatly they said it was a muslim. Funny how it turned out to be osmeone from a completely different contenet, and obviously there wasnt much talk about it after realising the person wasnt a muslim.
This is not the politics sabla, hence I am gonna leave it at this!
Yes, it is becoming a disturbing thing in Oman, and I personaly think it is hard to get rid of it, it could be the Genes after all :P. Solving th problem as u all sayed starts with solving it within us. The problem is that some people just enjoy it, and make it look like as if its a "cool" thing talking about other people, and that if u didnt take part in that, then you are a boring person. I think this has to be changed, and we have to make sure that our children dont acquire such ideas... donno how to do that, I dont have any kids... Well, That's all from me!Thanks
talk good or dont talk. very simple
Great topic bimi.. keep it on these nice topics ..
Originally posted by Dark Project
great topic Bimzoori !!
I did read a story of Imam Al Shafi who used to send gifts personally to people neighbors and they wondered why.He uses to tell them " I heard that you were talking behind my back and the (Thawab) reward from God is I get all your reward so I thought I can give you this present to thank you for the great reward you gave me "
Good thinking don’t you think?
YES .. its an Excellant way of thinking.. I guess we all should do so..
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