Hey guys
Anyone has any exp. in data cables? I have an old PC and a new one, the old one has no USB port, and I need to exchange data between them, I have the normal Data Cable, but I have no idea how to work it!!!:confused:

Hmmm, Any idea guyz?
Anyone knows anything about it?:lost:

What you can do is get a parallel cable and link that two PCs together for them to "hopefully" creat a LAN. Anyway, I tried linking two laptops together using ethernet cables but I couldn't do it, so I am not really an expert in networking.
Anyway, what you can also do is get a CD writer and burn all your data on to CDs that you could use on your new PC. OR, you could upload your files to a server using the internet and then download them in to your new PC, this last one would be quiet difficult because of the connection speed in Oman.

What you can do is get a parallel cable and link that two PCs together

I got one and linked the two toghether...

to "hopefully" creat a LAN

How can I create a LAN? In another way, What is a LAN? :D

what you can also do is get a CD writer and burn all your data on to CDs that you could use on your new PC

Already tried, but 5 GB's of music is alot to burn on CD's...

you could upload your files to a server using the internet and then download them in to your new PC

As you said, the connection speed here is not so good...


I guess that the only thing I could do is use my Parallel cable to hook them up toghether...

Do both PCs have network cards ?

If so, you can buy an ethernet "crossover" cable (specially wired so you don't need a hub) and link the two into a peer-to-peer LAN.

What Operating System does each PC have ?

3 step process is:

1) create physical connection - cabled and TCP/IP configured (example):

TCP/IP (Computer 1) - 192.168.1.100 255.255.255.0
TCP/IP (Computer 2) - 192.168.1.200 255.255.255.0


2) create logical connection - both computers in same Workgroup, rights assigned (if necessary) and shares created.

3) copy files


You can PM me if you want to try this and need more assistance - cause I don't always look in IT section.

Wanderer! I also need some help connecting two laptops together, I connected them both using an ethernet cable, and I used the connection wizard to hook them up, but it didn't work, I can't detect any computers in the network. Could you please help me out!:lost:

Sure.

Would need to know the OS on the computers.

Most common problems are:

Wrong cable type (common) - you must have a crossover or X-cable. These are different from regular patch cables.


TCP/IP not bound to the network card (rare)
Wrong/inconsistant TCP/IP configuration (common)
Different Workgroup designation (rare)
Folder "share" not configured properly (common)

How do you get this time stamp ?

Last edited by BLuE_Chi on 13-87-2057 at 71:58 PM

For reference :

http://gccprinters.com/support/doc/crossover.html

If you'rr certain this is correct, your TCP/IP (IP) configuration may be set to use DHCP. That is, when connected to a network, your computer asks for a temp IP address. Buit when you hook 2 laptops together, there is no DHCP server to respond, so no IP address gets assigned and it can't communicate.

In this case, you have to manually assign a static IP address in the Network Properties.

Best practices suggest you use 192.168.1.1 - 253 with a subnet mask of 255.255.255.0,

So as I suggested above, assign one PC to 192.168.1.100 and the other to 192.168.1.200, for example. Both with the same submask.

You should then be able to open a command prompt, type:
C:> PING 192.168.1.200 (whatever the other pC's IP address is) and see a reply.

The two laptops that I wish to connect together are not connected to the internet, so how do I get their IPs?

oh god!! all this to transfer data from one P.C to the other!! if there's a U.S.B port...just use a P.C.Link. if not then throw that laptop away . :D hehe..

Talking of USB cables, is it possible to connect the two laptops using them? I've searched around for USB cables and only found A-B cables that connect a PC to an accessory. Are there any A-A cables?

Originally posted by BLuE_Chi
The two laptops that I wish to connect together are not connected to the internet, so how do I get their IPs?

Blue, it would help if I knew the Operating Systems we are working with.

To check if you have a permanent IP assigned to your computer -

**while NOT connected to the Internet**

Win95/98/ME - Start -> Run -> type command <enter>. This will open a DOS window. At C:\> WINIPCFG <enter>

This should launch a window with your current IP settings.

Win NT/2000/XP - Start -> Run -> type command <enter>. This will open a DOS window. At C:\> IPCONFIG <enter>

This should launch a window with your current IP settings.

Originally posted by BLuE_Chi
Talking of USB cables, is it possible to connect the two laptops using them? I've searched around for USB cables and only found A-B cables that connect a PC to an accessory. Are there any A-A cables?

YES, they are available. Here for example.

http://www.cablemax.com/cablemax/show-item.cfm?id=363792&ca=167&catlink=usb-products.cfm

Both of the laptops are running Window XP Home Edition. I am really have a hard time connecting them together, COULD YOU PLEASE guide me with a step by step method of how I could connect them together.

Yes, but you'll need to confirm that both laptops have ethernet connections and acquire an Ethernet crossover cable.

I'll work on it tonight.

Are you in the USA ?

No, I am in the UK. And both laptops have an ethernet connection.

You need to get an ethernet "crossover" cable - it is a modified version of the standard "patch" cable that allows connections without using a hub.

You will then change some network settings to assign temporary IP addresses to you computers and make a connection. After teh data is transferred, you'll change the settings back so that you can continue connecting to the Internet as you normally do.

How do you connect to the internet ?

I will try detailing the steps tonight - I don't have an XP computer here right now.

We connect to the internet using an intrannet LAN connection where we just plug in the ethernet cable without any settings changes at all.

What exactly is the etherent modified cable? Is it a different cable than the normal ethernet cable?

Couldn't you just connect both laptops to your LAN intranet and share a folder(s) with all of you files on the old laptop then go to the newer laptop and copy (pull) the files from old to the new laptop ?

Maybe not.

A crossover cable IS different from a regular "patch" cable. They often look the same, but the wires at the connection point are configured diferently. Here's an example:

http://www.cablesamerica.com/product.asp?cat%5Fid=1404&sku=24494

See if you can get one from a store or friend - usually under $10. My humble advice - since they look like regular patch cables, get a unique color - we use red, to denote that it is different. Even put some tape on it and write X on the tape. It will save you time and trouble in the future.

The thing is that we don't have permenant connection to the internet, and we want to connect the two laptops together to share file and play multiplayer games. We have an ethernet cable to connect them together, we can also use infra-red, and the direct modem connection if that is possible.

Originally posted by BLuE_Chi
We have an ethernet cable to connect them together, ..


You must be sure that this is a crossover cable - specifically for direct PC to PC connections. Regular patch cables will not work in direct PC to PC connections.

I'll post what I could determine about LAN IP settings from MoonChild's XP system a bit later. But it will NOT work with the wrong cable.

Originally posted by Wanderer
I'll post what I could determine about LAN IP settings from MoonChild's XP system a bit later. But it will NOT work with the wrong cable.

I've tried to explain this to him. But he insists to make a LAN connection using just a normal connection.

I've given him direction on how to make his own crossover cable if he doesn't want to spend a $.

I dont believe he wants to even spend money on a hub or a switch.

He ca also try to connect both computers to the internet under the same domain or even other domain and get the IP from himself.

Anyways, I've done what I've done, and I see a new whole of a thread here.

Wanderer, you can read more on .....

Don if your interested you can always PM wanderer with that link - Edited by desertdestroyer (you can delete this once you read it)

What could possibly warrant editing/censuring Don's post ?

He's just giving me some background on the situation.