well this calls far a hello all..........

no am not back but read something and had to share it will all of u ..............

The Price Of Israel For U.S.A."$1.6 trillion"
>It's time to tell the Israelis "We can no longer afford you."
>The Christian Science Monitor published in its Dec. 9 edition a story about
>Thomas Stauffer, a consulting economist, who said recently that the total
>cost of U.S. support for Israel since 1973 is $1.6 trillion(1600 billions),
>or twice the cost of the Vietnam War.
>This is relevant because the Israelis have just demanded from the U.S.
>taxpayers another $4 billion to cover the cost of their oppression of the
>Palestinians as well as an $8 billion loan guarantee.
>Ladies and gentleman, there isn't a state in the U.S.A. that is not facing a
>financial crisis, and if the U.S. government caves in yet again to the
>Israeli lobby on this matter, it will be prima facie evidence of mass
>insanity or of the worse corruption since the administration of Ulysses S.
>Grant.
>Stauffer made his speech in a lecture commissioned by the U.S. Army War
>College for a conference at the University of Maine. He has converted past
>aid into 2001 dollars and counts this cost as follows:
>In 1973, when the Arabs attacked Israel in an effort to recover territory
>taken by Israel in the 1967 war, U.S. support for Israel triggered the oil
>embargo. This, according to Stauffer, kicked off a recession that cost $420
>billion of output; the boost in oil prices cost $450 billion; the necessity
>to build a strategic oil reserve, another $134 billion.
>He points out that the United States has already guaranteed $10 billion in
>commercial loans to Israel and $600 billion in housing loans, and he expects
>the U.S. Treasury will end up paying for all of these. He goes on and on
>listing more costs, direct and indirect. Israel, for example, is the only
>recipient of foreign aid allowed to spend a sizeable percentage of the money
>on Israeli products rather than American. It's the only country from which
>our defense contractors are required to buy a certain amount of Israeli-made
>equipment. It is the only foreign country that gets its aid in a lump sum
>and then invests it in U.S. bonds so that taxpayers not only make an annual
>gift to Israel but also have to pay Israel interest on that gift.
>The fact is that the Israeli government and its powerful lobby have taken
>advantage of the good-heartedness of the American people. The American
>people are generous, but never generous enough to satisfy Israeli demands
>for more of our people's hard-earned tax dollars.
>It is one thing to provide emotional support. It is one thing even to
>guarantee coming to the defense of another country if it is attacked. It is
>quite another to undertake the permanent subsidy of a foreign country,
>something our federal government does not even do for its states. We have
>all kinds of problems in the United States that need attention. It's time to
>tell the Israelis "We can no longer afford you."
>It's America's policy of absolute support for Israel and Israel's cruel
>treatment of the Palestinians that are a big part of our problem with
>terrorism. We stand convicted in the eyes of the Muslim world of practicing
>a double standard by condoning Israel's human-rights violations and
>protecting it from international sanctions. That, too, is a terrible price
>the American people can no longer afford to pay.
>(c) 2002 by King Features Syndicate, Inc.
>

Well as least it tells you/////// America takes care of its' friends........

Personally.........as an American, it would be cheaper to just nuke the hell out of the Arab countries and just take their oil and land.......I expect if the shoe was on the other foot......this is what the Arabs would do.....and that is simply why America is there now.........

The Arabs will easily kill innocent people with weapons of mass destruction.....because some muslims are brainwashed and ignorant.....

I am so sick of letting the enemy off...with good behavior...

When America backed the Shah in Iran....he went completly crazy.......and turned on his own people.....and killed at will......America was blamed........the crazy frecking Idiot of a muslim.........and America made the mistake to think he is a true friend.... he stuck a knife in America's back..........by abusing his own people........and lying to America.....and it's people...who knew nothing of what was happening to the Iranian people.

When America helped Iraq and Saddam Hussein with his vision of a true democractic Iraq in the late 70's.........same thing......he thought America's desire to be friends was a weakness......and he went crazy on his people with torture and killing of muslim mullahs who didn't support him......again America is blamed with creating this monster..

Osama bin Laden//// was helped by America to defeat communism in Afganistan......he turned on his friend who stook by his side........but we all know America is blamed for creating this muslim monster......

When America was trying to estabish friends in the middle east........during the Israeli peace talks.........the Arab countries asked for money..........Egypt gets big money and Jordan....America has to buy friends.......because it is known the Arabs cannot maintain true friendships with western people...........as it is written in the Quran to avoid the non believers....

So as the Arab countries do business with the west.....actually they despise the west......they hate the west.......the lifestyle is non Islamic.......but yet they depend on the oil.......for their power and corruption...which is also blamed on America.......for their support of israel??? How about their support of arab oil??

Without it.......the Arab countries would be bankrupt in 1 month....you would have nothing......

In the 70's Las Vegas was full of OIL rich Iranian Brats who dropped thousands of dollars and rented suites full of white meat whor#s...and America is blamed as a Satan now by Iran, as the young people are turning to weatern values instead of Islam.....20 years later.....

The Arabs are the drug dealers of energy and the West is the addict.......

Israel is the one middle eastern country who wants democracy.....so they get the money.......America gives money for that..........because free markets and happy consumers are good for America.....Americans wants business and free markets..to sell it's products and services.......if you take and NOT give.....them a chance........you become the enemy......

Just imagine all the wasted money spend on this piece of piece of land.... ......where misguided Arabs will send their children into the path of Israeli tanks........over a worthless piece of land...........and dream about the fatalistic hope of a Arab homeland....called Palestine...dirt poor......and out of touch with the rest of the middle east......what a sight.....!!!!!

Meanwhile the equally idiotic Americans try to buy time.....and make friends....with Arabs and Israelis.........what a waste of time....and money!!!!

For your information......Americans are getting tired of the throwing money to the corrupt Arabs and stupid Israelis..when it comes to a stop......you will see a great bloodbath...in that area...but who cares?????

We will watch the whole area become weak thru infighting and prime for a takeover.......because you can't STOP the junkie from his fix......we will take the oil and the land.......and the whole area.......

You Arabs and Israelis can go to hell!.......if that's what you want.....

We can't wait for another 500 years for you to get your sh#t together.....

Get with the program or become an extinct species.......up to you!

cheers
fatak....

PS.I have been arguing all night with my Algierian friend here and I am pissed!!

Heavens, Fatak. That's probably the most emotional I've seen you on any issue.

Like I say, no US foreign aid to Israel, Egypt, or Jordan. Thay have to realize that peace has it's own benefits, not just a cheque from the US.

yo yo yo........Japanese hot sake.....gets my gander up!!!!

I am afraid I will never be a good muslim..too much bad Irish DNA......LOL

Cheers
fatak

Careful, that stuff will turn your face red.

We are debatiing going out for Japanese or Indian food tonight.

We'll probably end up talking about how, if the oil was someplace else, we'd know of the middle east as just an desert area with an unending tribal war.

For the record, I too am tired of subsidizing israel. I've been against that massive welfare state my entire adult life. and they are getting more and more expensive. I am really starting to get angry about the continued blackmailing of US by Israel for more and more and more money - they have a healthy economy and plenty of military might for self-defense, yet they keep coming around with hands out....

Thanks for the replies....ouch my head hurts....feels like an elephant sat on it.....

I used to live in West Berlin..Germany.....in the old days of the cold war.......as my brother did work with the Defence dept........those were the days...where Americans.......God bless em.......took the stand to stop the Russians from embracing Western Europe......I use to go to EAST Berlin on the weekends thru Chechpoint Charlie and party with the Russian elite corps.....after a few beers........we would sit and talk the whole night about our families and our political systems.......These were young guys brainwashed to think of America as the evil empire who enslaves people.........but they all loved American cultural things like the Beach Boys, Micky Mouse....and Playboy magizine, etc.....now of course we are good vodka buddies.......and I hear the bill for that whole period from about 1950......onward......is in the trillions........of $$$$$.

Now when I met Arab peoples......it's the same thing..they are torn between western values and Islamic values.....and taught to hate Israel and the USA.

Their solution is to wipe out the Jews from their homeland.....they refuse to understand the Israeli's history or claims....alot of which is misplaced arab pride......and an eye for eye culture......

And now we have the French and Germany allies spitting in our faces......while we start to help Turkey.........go figure....I have personally stop eating French Toast.....French Fries and refuse to French kiss my girlfriend.... watching the French president with Mugambe...that was so enertaining......with his French vision of Africa........what a joke!!!!

We can thank the French for Vietnam......


I hope Americans can wake up and try to reach out to their supposed enemies.......especially the muslims......90% want a normal life.......and peace.....

I can't see spending trillions on winning the hearts and minds.......of people who are taught to think of as EVIL.......(USA)

The Israelis........have made it clear......they will sit down to negociate with the Palestians.....if the violence stops....but it never does.

The Arabs are determined to continue fighting until the end.......

Can you imagine what a fantastic place the middle east would be if they pumped all that oil money into education and developement?..instead of fighting Muslim extremists and proping up dictator style governments??

cheers
fatak