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We understand that UK following US by defualt in everything wheather it's true or wrong, but another contries starts to follow the US blindly like Spain, Italy, Australia, what are the reason for such countries to take such wrong step, are they afraid from the US and can't take a decision against the US will ?
Desert_Sloath 17-02-03, 09:06 AM who knows they could too be having 'karazaist' leadership like Afghanistan ?
interesting to me has been the stand of Canada torn between Anglo and Franco political dillema
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Quick Silver 17-02-03, 10:22 AM why do you go so far, arabs are following the US blindly as well. Infact they are the most people offering support to the US. Arabs countries are the only countries that didn't egnite huge protests, compared to other countries in europe and Australia. Not even that, Arab prime ministers can't even agree on an emergency meeting to discuss Iraqs case( what a joke). The worst is that arabs (what a cheap nations) are offering their lands to the US paying most war costs and arguing in the news that they are against any war.
Dark Project 17-02-03, 10:39 AM According to the Statistics 2/3 of the Americans voting for a war .
Well The Arabs have to follow too get it !!!
Quick Silver 17-02-03, 11:17 AM yeap dude that is so sad. It makes you wana cry
Desert_Sloath 17-02-03, 01:11 PM no matter what, i'll still be prowd of being an Arab :color:
no stones nor trees shall distaste me.
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shamsery 18-02-03, 12:22 PM Qoute: We understand that UK following US by defualt in everything weather it's true or wrong, but another countries starts to follow the US blindly like Spain, Italy, Australia, what are the reason for such countries to take such wrong step, are they afraid from the US and can't take a decision against the US will ?”Unquote.
This is an important question. Why France and Germany from EEU have taken different stand?
Can some one please discuss on the issue?
Wanderer 18-02-03, 07:36 PM Once again, "T" got it wrong.
It is France and Germany that are blind.
BTW - Arabs are following the US because the Arab leaders need US help to keep the Arab people "in their place".
Don't believe me ?
How about 10 - 15 of you make signs that read "Democracy Now !!" and "Power to the People" and march down the streets.
Go on, try it.
Hans Venderer,,
It's time for you to get out from your cave and listen to the real news and avoide American biased media.
Dark Project 19-02-03, 08:08 AM Why argue ???
Wanderer is right ..
Do you think your Arab leaders care for you ????
Middle East 19-02-03, 10:45 AM Originally posted by Wanderer
How about 10 - 15 of you make signs that read "Democracy Now !!" and "Power to the People" and march down the streets.
Go on, try it.
Let me remind you, or enlight with the truth. By doing that in our dear countries, you will get your arse wipped badly, jailed, and God knows what by officers.
Our So-called Arabian governments are controlled by the USA governments, and what please Israel, USA will do to us.
Did you know that whenever a protest wants to start in Gulf, you will get the police stopping it most of the time before it even starts? Or when it starts. Thanks to the CIA whom co-operate well with thier bosses. While they do not realise that is harming thier own country.
Equality 19-02-03, 11:48 AM The truth
Isreal
control (100%)
America
America
control (100%)
theworld
which means
Isreal control the world
France & Germany have no power to stop the war
America have the power to go for/ stop the war
with or without UN red/green card.
Shakoosh Kabir 19-02-03, 05:35 PM You are all victims of your own propaganda. Israel is no more than a small state which has been fighting for its existence since May 1948.
The West has always been helpful and generous to Arab countries. If you don´t like your governments and rulers, why don´t you vote them out?
Why doesn´t a coalition of Arab armies enter Iraq and replace the regime?
Wanderer 19-02-03, 09:13 PM Originally posted by Middle East
Let me remind you, or enlight with the truth. By doing that in our dear countries, you will get your arse wipped badly, jailed, and God knows what by officers.
Then maybe your principle problems are not derived from conflict between Palestinians and Israelis.
Who blindly follows in a Monarchy - the King or the people ?
Shinoda LP 19-02-03, 10:09 PM Wandy, there have been huge protests in the US itself showing the US govt. that the people are clearly against a possible war.
About why countries follow US, --- A british friend of mine summed it up pretty well. I would say it is correct to a great extent. "If you can't kick their *****, then lick it. It's for their own good." Watching the news makes me feel, Tony Blair is an ambassador of the US without the validatory designation of that post!
Also, I heard that France and Germany got a major share of oil from Iraq, which they would lose if US bombed them. How much of this is true, I don't know. Anyone heard something like this? ;)
Wanderer 20-02-03, 01:31 AM Originally posted by Night_rideR
Wandy, there have been huge protests in the US itself showing the US govt. that the people are clearly against a possible war.
"The People" are not represented by the protesters. "The People" have jobs and bathe. As it turns out, Americans with a grudge hitch any cause to anti war rallies - like parasites, to gain added attention. Just think about it - you want to save the Green Hump-Backed Horned Housefly from extinction by multi-national chemical companies (that make, among other things, bug spray), but how do you get your message out on a limited budget?
Simple. Get 5 of your friends and their families to make "NO More War - Save the Fly" signs and carry them in any available anti-war rally. In a classic symbiotic relationship - win/win, you get exposure, they get numbers.
Don't believe me:
"FEBRUARY 21: Take to the streets to fight war and racism on the anniversary of the assassination of Malcolm X. "
"Youth and students have marked this important anniversary with militant protests on a range of issues for the last thirty-five years. Malcolm X embodies the spirit of struggle against militarism and the racist establishment. Honor his life and legacy the right way: Resist! "
"Youth and Student A.N.S.W.E.R. will be providing leaflets, posters, stickers and other resources for the February 21 actions." A.N.S.W.E.R. stands for "Act Now to Stop War & End Racism"
source: http://www.internationalanswer.org/
Perhaps this quote will also shed some light: "said sophomore Caroline Picker, the rally’s emcee and a member of SEAS and the Stanford Coalition for Peace and Justice. “It’s something to remember — as Stanford students we’re in a unique place . . . We have the opportunity to attack the ideas, the intellectual force behind the anti-affirmative action movement, the current war in Iraq, the idea that communism is a malignant ideology.”
source: http://dlb1.stanford.edu/bagelblog/archives/000011.html
Now some of this may backfire, as France may find that Iraq's new found ally, GreenPeace - save the whale/stop the Bomb, and a credible challenger to France's Navy, as sufficient proof of Baghdad's alignment with evil.
"New Zealand saw one of Saturday's first protests, with environmental pressure group Greenpeace flying a plane over Auckland harbour, where the Americas Cup began on Saturday, trailing a banner stating "No War, Peace Now".
source: http://www.worldrevolution.org/article/589
I'll let you decide the extent that Malcolm X, Affirmative Action, Communism, Whales, and Iraq's non-complaince are related.
Originally posted by Night_rideR
"If you can't kick their *****, then lick it. It's for their own good."
That's OBL's reasoning ... for the Saudi's. Remember his anger is at US forces in the holy land - by invitation, mind you - to save the Saudis from the Iraqis. The Saudis should have licked.
Now apply the statement to Arab attempts to dislodge those persistant Israelis. "If you can't kick their ***** ...
... well, you know what you have to do now.
Middle East 20-02-03, 02:16 AM Originally posted by Wanderer
Who blindly follows in a Monarchy - the King or the people ?
Ofcourse both. Either directly or indirectly. The president would do that in order to save more cash in his pockets, while people to save themselves from being thrown at jail.
Shinoda LP 20-02-03, 10:34 PM Interesting thought Wandy :)
You may be right about the anti-war rallies being held ... just hip ha? :gap:
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