So far, most debates have been about the States and her allies hitting Iraq and overthrowing Saddam..

However, an interesting topic has been brought up in the 3rd February issue of the Time magazine, which questions the possibilty of Saddam retaliating..

The article quotes Saddam's son (Udday) saying:

"If they come, Sept. 11, which they are crying over and see as a big thing, will be a real picnic for them, God willing"


According to the article, Can They Strike Back?, saddam might attept to use biological and chemical weapons to retaliate against the invading US forces... or as an laternative, might "target less protected U.S bases and Israeli cities..."

Iraq is thought to posses the following Bio-Chemical agents:

-Anthrax
-botulinum toxin
-Aflatoxin
-Ricin

These chemicals could be "as devastating or more devastating than a nuclear weapon"


How many of you think this would happen? why or why not?!


For more details refer to :

3rd of February issue of the Time magazine.
Can they Strike Back?, by Romesh Ratnesar.

it will turn onto the american themselves ,,,,coz i believe that one day will come where the right ((al7aqq)) will come up ,,

it is not necessary from saddam ,,, no body knows what is ganna happen ,,,

that what all i can say ,,,,there was an interview with saddam or his son (( on channel 4 )) not sure ,, waiting for tomorow newspaper,,




with respect to Saddam ,,,

Originally posted by Navy_boy


it is not necessary from saddam ,,, no body knows what is ganna happen ,,,


well, this is another issue that the author talked about..

America's war against Sadam might create more terrorists.. and Al-Qaeda might take advantage of the fact that Americans will be busy striking Iraq to hit US lands..

the author also quotes an Arab Diplomat saying :"An invasion of Iraq will bolster the arguments of the extremists, who claim that there is no solution other than extrimism"


As it is right now, there have been many attepts to hit American property whether in the US or outside the US.. so a war against Iraq would definitely trigger more of these opperations.. most of the Arab/Islamic world is already flaming.. America should be ready for the worst to happen!!

Those of you in the states, are there any news of such possibilities?!

Well Saddam makes it clear ..that he wont stand still if he gets hit so for sure.. he has plans to fight back ...

will he use those chemical weapons....thats possible, he has nothing to lose.Bimzoori said: the author also quotes an Arab Diplomat saying :"An invasion of Iraq will bolster the arguments of the extremists, who claim that there is no solution other than extrimism"

indeed, these actions always help to increase such groups and motivate them do unexpected things.

and Al-Qaeda might take advantage of the fact that Americans will be busy striking Iraq to hit US lands..

do u think a big country like the US will miss this point,,, I think they r ready for such re-actions ,,,& they expect it from any one in the world ,,,, not limited to AL Qaeeda ,,

Originally posted by DeSerTDesTroYeR
Well Saddam makes it clear ... he has plans to fight back ...

will he use those chemical weapons....thats possible, he has nothing to lose.


Oh, so you too believe that Iraq has WMD in violation of UN ceasefire conditions ?

So you must understand why the UN must act ?

:rolleyes: .... oh well what can i say!!


Anyhow!

If this war really happens, then surely it will be something different than the previous gulf war!!

The purpose of this war for americans is to invade iraq and change the ruling government in there.
For this, Saddam and his government will not be loosing anything by defending them selves using the most powerful weapon they posses. Whatever it is!

Bare in mind that americans will not only fight soldiers and military personal!
The iraqi ppl will stand for defending their country. As they see americans as invaders that should be stopped by any mean!!
So yeah, iraq has the power to stand.

Originally posted by Wanderer
Oh, so you too believe that Iraq has WMD in violation of UN ceasefire conditions ?

So you must understand why the UN must act ?

the UN hasnt yet "authorized" war against Iraq! and Bush has already decided that he;ll set off for the war against Iraq even if the UN doesnt approve of it..

UN inspectors said they need more time to uncover any weapons that migt be hiding.. butit seems that Bush cant wait any longer.

Bush has made up his mind about the war and its timing.. and whether or not he gets further votes from the UN he doesnt really care.. everything is already set up..

Do you see the danger in that. If the yankes, went ahead without the UN approval, than whats the point of having UN to begin with. Furthermore, UN would loose its credbility, and none of the Veto country would take it seriously

Originally posted by EviliO

The purpose of this war for americans is to invade iraq and change the ruling government in there.

For this, Saddam and his government will not be loosing anything by defending them selves using the most powerful weapon they posses.

Whatever it is!

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1:

Why do they want to invade Iraq. I think it will not be that easy to invade Iraq. His Royal Highness Prince Abdullah Ibn Abdul/Aziz al-Saud, supported the idea of "if an arab member of the Arab League countries is attacked all arabs shall stand against the invader". This was unanimously endorsed by all member countries. So invasion of Iraq at this point in time, is out of question unless British and American Governments have no respect of any arab member nation to the arab league. Any action, therefore, against Iraq would be a declaration of war against the very arab world. That is how I interpret the Beirut Arab Summit declaration.

2:


If Iraq retaliates against the root cause of the war, Kuwait shall be one of those #1 targets, 2nd Israel. I am very much worried of the fate of my uncle who is a Kuwaiti. Our family has been persuading them to come to Oman till the dust settles but he accuses us of wanting to rent our apartment to him. They too have become business minded. My other uncle in Iraq, says they will fight to the end. They refuse to come out of Iraq because they regard doing so is a self-humiliation, they'd rather die to live behing an anti-British legacy of hate for years to come.

My brother who immigrated to England supports Blair, he says they do not care of turning arabs into enemies that is infact what they are planning to achieve in place of the old USSR.

My uncle who lives in Iran is very upset and sad. He is helpless, he keeps on reminding us of the time Iraq was siding with the Americans against the Islamic Republic of Iran. Our family has extended him an invitation but has declined it. He says we are politically juvenile, he insist that we can not see beyond self-satisfaction. He was told my dad that once an arab sips a cup of coffee he forgets the hunger. Is this true ?


3:

Tariq Aziz (John or Hana) himself declared of Iraq having weapons enough to defend themselves. He disclosed that they do in fact have air-guns. That is enough a weapon to turn off an invader. All that matters is a will. If the people of Iraq have a will there will be a way.

The Iraqi population regardless of political inclination they are at a cross road:

Be prepared to live in a Palestine like situation

or

Defend their, government, country integrity.

failing to do so

Their future is bound to be DISTATED by the British and American for many, many years ahead

United Nation has a tough job ahead. Not of inspections in Iraq but of assession own perfomance away from British and American influences.

Why not take the offer extended (to Their Excellencies (?) Blair and Bush) by His Excellency (?) President Saddam to co-operate (against who ?) instead of invasion ?

Why is it only the British and American administrations, always ( NOT THE 'always' U SEE ON TV ads ), standing (or seems to ) against the world ?

Why not Russia, France, China, Germany, iTaly, sPain or pOrtuguese or Oman for that matter. All these once had empires of their own, but have turned peaceful loving countries of the world.


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Originally posted by Wanderer
Oh, so you too believe that Iraq has WMD in violation of UN ceasefire conditions ?

So you must understand why the UN must act ?

Some how the Americans can not see that Israel has WMD and as well violating the UN treaty...

Originally posted by Dark Project
Some how the Americans can not see that Israel has WMD and as well violating the UN treaty...

Israel hasn't lost a war - and had UN conditions forbidding WMD applied as a result.

India and Pakistan have WMD too.

Originally posted by Gollum
Do you see the danger in that. If the yankes, went ahead without the UN approval, than whats the point of having UN to begin with. Furthermore, UN would loose its credbility, and none of the Veto country would take it seriously

Sometimes I wonder if that's the point.

Off topic: The zionist entity did lose the war of 1973, just to inform those who can't accept facts :wink:

Originally posted by Wanderer
Oh, so you too believe that Iraq has WMD in violation of UN ceasefire conditions ?

So you must understand why the UN must act ?

:) wanderer....where did i say i beleive in that.. :rolleyes: if you would like to read the 1st post again...and check what i said...you would manage to understand that i never said what you assumed i did..:D

i said THOSE.....which means in the article..which are also Iraq is thought to posses the following Bio-Chemical agents

well..if they UN finds such weapons i would understand but is it really the UN acting... i doubt it personally.

Originally posted by EviliO
Off topic: The zionist entity did lose the war of 1973, just to inform those who can't accept facts :wink:

Interesting position.

In what way did Israel lose ?

"It was only when it was clear that Egypt was going to lose that the United Nations acted, finally ordering a cease-fire. At that time, Israel held the entire western side of the Suez Canal, coming within 42 miles of Cairo. Israel had pushed Syria back to within 40 miles of Damascus, having destroyed more than 1,100 Syrian tanks.

...when hostilities finally ended ...Israel held an additional 165 square miles of territory from Syria, and was firmly established on the west bank of the Suez Canal. ...the IDF had completely surrounded Egypt's Third Army and threatened it with annihilation. "

source:http://www.palestinefacts.org/pf_1967to1991_ykwar_course.php

On a contrary my friend. I think thats the very point itself. Just imagine UN loose their credebility. Its like having a license to kill. No one would consult the UN anymore. And this war that we are all concerned off, would be like nothing to what would happened in the future.

Did Saddam consult the UN and ask their permission to invade Kuwait?
You raise an interesting point about the role of the UN, perhaps it's better off in another thread though.

Originally posted by DeSerTDesTroYeR
:) wanderer....where did i say i beleive in that..

DD, you posted "...will he use those chemical weapons....thats possible, he has nothing to lose"

It's only possible for him to use "those chemical weapons" if in fact, he has them - it's not possible if he doesn't.

You posted "that's possible". Therefore you must believe he has them, or you aren't making any sense.

He's not supposed to have them anymore.

Originally posted by Neo
Just imagine UN loose their credebility. Its like having a license to kill.

The UN is losing their credibility, but it wouldn't be a license to kill. War has a lot of drawbacks.

Do you find any thing more, except Saddam? Is Saddam the only target? Is Bush trying to break the unity of EC?

Add Korea in the list too shamsery ..
Funny they have the WMD and USA & UK are not making such fuss ....
I guess there is more into just a war .

Originally posted by MoonChild
[B]Did Saddam consult the UN and ask their permission to invade Kuwait?


Somehow yes he did. Didn't you know that MoonChild ?



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Mr.Dark Project.
USA & UK wants to hunt many birds with a single stone.

it would be so cool to see a nuclear bomb detonate? I hope we at least see that on tv

We'll make sure you get a front row seat :D

Originally posted by Dark Project
Add Korea in the list too shamsery ..
Funny they have the WMD and USA & UK are not making such fuss ....

Patience, DP, one annoying, well-armed despot at a time.

It seems that the US population does feel threatened of possible attacks (could they be related to teh upcoming war?):

From The Washingon Post:

"A day after federal officials urged Americans to prepare their homes in case of a biological, chemical or radiological attack, and four days after the nation's threat level was raised from yellow to orange, many Washingtonians found themselves on a grim shopping trip, just in case."


"While Washington has lived under a nagging cloud of fear since the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, many residents said this week's warnings were more powerful because they were more specific.

On Monday, federal officials singled out Washington and New York as possible targets and offered more detailed advice to citizens. Recommendations included assembling disaster kits with flashlights, radios and food and water to last three days and having duct tape, plastic and other supplies to seal off a room at home."



Source:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A59412-2003Feb11.html

Most of us think this whole thing about buying plastic sheeting and duct tape is a joke. I mean, how much good is that actually going to do?

Gun sales are up, though.

Originally posted by Wanderer
Patience, DP, one annoying, well-armed despot at a time.
Its gonna cost you alot ....
Can the USA handle the COSTS Financially and Politically?

Originally posted by Dark Project
Its gonna cost you alot ....
Can the USA handle the COSTS Financially and Politically?

there is the Arab Oil ,,

Cheeky !!
If thats the vision .. by the time US turns its head to Korea the oil will be consumed by then :p

Originally posted by Dark Project
Its gonna cost you alot ....
Can the USA handle the COSTS Financially and Politically?

The question is, can we afford to not respond ?

Rouge nations with WMD and delivery systems will be more expensive to appease or defeat later.