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Khanjar
31-01-03, 07:45 AM
Thursday, 30 January, 2003, 12:41 GMT
Iraq and al-Qaeda: What's the evidence?


Arguing for war: US tries to link Saddam and al-Qaeda

The US and UK Governments are once again linking Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein to Osama Bin Laden's al-Qaeda network as they try to make their case for a war in Iraq. BBC News Online looks at the strength of the evidence for links between Iraq and al-Qaeda.

Towards the end of Last year US National Security adviser Condoleezza Rice and Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld claimed that there were top-level contacts between al-Qaeda and Iraq going back a decade.

Saddam Hussein aids and protects terrorists including members of al-Qaeda


Ms Rice added that prisoners in US custody have said that Iraq had provided "some training to al-Qaeda in chemical weapons development".

No hard evidence was provided for these claims.


In his State of the Union address in late January, President George Bush said: "Evidence from intelligence sources, secret communications, and statements by people now in custody, reveal that Saddam Hussein aids and protects terrorists including members of al-Qaeda."

Again, no concrete evidence was forthcoming.

Establishing this link would go a long way towards persuading sceptical public opinion in the US, Britain and across the world that Iraq represents a clear and imminent security threat to the US and its allies - thereby justifying a war on Iraq.

"Al-Qaeda man seeks medical treatment in Baghdad":

American claims of a link between Iraq and al-Qaeda rest heavily on reports that a Jordanian member of al-Qaeda, Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, sought and received medical treatment in Baghdad after being injured in the fighting in Afghanistan.


There were claims that 11 September attacker Mohamed Atta met Iraqi agents According to the claims, Mr Zarqawi was refused treatment in Iran. It is reported that communications between Mr Zarqawi and his family in Jordan were intercepted.

There any evidence, nor is it claimed, that Mr Zarqawi received anything other than medical treatment in Iraq.

"Al-Qaeda in northern Iraq":

There have been widespread reports that al-Qaeda members have found refuge in northern Iraq. These relate to a group called Ansar al-Islam (Partisans of Islam) which has taken over a small area near the Iranian border.

This part of Iraq, however, is in Kurdish hands and outside the direct control of the Iraqi Government.

Iraq is said by defectors linked to Iraqi opposition groups to have had contacts with the group.

Al-Qaeda interrogations:

US officials have said that al-Qaeda members held by the US authorities at Guantanamo Bay, Diego Garcia and other locations have told their interrogators that Baghdad was attempting to train al-Qaeda in the use of chemical weapons.

There is not independent verification of this. It has also been pointed out that al-Qaeda may be seeking to provoke a US war Iraq.

"Mohamed Atta in Prague":

For a long time it was claimed that the leader of the 11 September hijackers, Mohamed Atta, had met an Iraqi agent in Prague in April, 2001.

This originated from a report by the Czech authorities.

After an investigation, the Czech President Vaclav Havel concluded that the report could not be substantiated.

First World Trade Centre attack:

There have been claims that Ramzi Yousef, convicted of the World Trade Center bombing in 1993, escaped from New York on a false passport provided by Iraqi intelligence. By its nature, this claim is impossible to prove, or disprove.

Desert_Sloath
31-01-03, 12:32 PM
The case at the UN at present is about the so called Iraqi WMD. If Briatin and America have got a different claim the MUST present a fresh case, to the UN, once the Iraqi comes clean of developing WMD.

If Iraq "attempts" to do this and that, Britain and America administrations have not only "attempted" but created Zionist state in the region and a both maintaining it militarily, politically and economically.

What is more of a threat an a 'substantial' action or an 'attempt?'.

The United Nation's credibility is on line. And the World Concience is on test, as is the European Union's solidarity at the cross road.


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shamsery
31-01-03, 12:42 PM
Has UNO any credibility ?

Dark Project
31-01-03, 02:13 PM
The US and UK Governments are once again linking Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein to Osama Bin Laden's al-Qaeda network.

Where the heck does the USA gets their ideas from ???
Hizbul Baath ( Al Baath sect) are totally against Islam fundamentalists ...

Desert_Sloath
31-01-03, 08:38 PM
Originally posted by Dark Project

Hizbul Baath ( Al Baath sect) are totally against Islam fundamentalists ... [/B]




Obviously CIA and MI6 are no longer active to have made such mistakes.

Are these two institutions obsolete as is the UNO itself ?

Seems as if after the fall of the USSR people are ripping from public tax for fun isn't it ?

How could they afford to be seen to come up with loose evidence and expect the educated world community to agree ?

May be UK too needs a Home Security thingy


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Wanderer
31-01-03, 11:55 PM
Hey Khanjar,

You should be a writer.

EviliO
01-02-03, 01:25 AM
Here is the evidence!

Wanderer
01-02-03, 02:31 AM
Here are the Arabs faced with any evidence -


http://www.photovault.com/Link/People/Caricature/FunnyFaces/PCFVolume01/PCFV01P02_03B.jpg

EviliO
01-02-03, 02:48 AM
Hmmmm....
Can't see any arabian in ur pic???
btw east asians are not considered arabian :rolleyes:
Just to add to ur big world of knowledge, or should i say dreams?

:rolleyes:

Desert_Sloath
10-02-03, 04:30 AM
Originally posted by Wanderer
[B]Here are the Arabs faced with any evidence -




When did you loose your seeing and hearing ability Hans Vand ?

At least Iraqis are known to have entered Kuwait, but al-Qaeda and Taliban accusation followed by American and British Actions seems a good lie.

Alas, you can only talk, I forgot that you can hear of see !!!!


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shamsery
10-02-03, 03:39 PM
Mr.Wanderer,
How you could do this mistake?

desert sailor
16-02-03, 09:15 PM
WANDERER

I TOLD YOU MANY TIMES TO THINK IT OVER BEFORE YOU SAY ANY THING , BUT YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND , YOU ARE CRAZY,



THESE FACES LOOK AMERICAN

YOU KNOW THAT ARAB DON'T CLOSE THEIRE EYES NO EARS NOR MOUTHS
THEY ALSO USE THEIRE HANDS
BE AWARE OF THE ARAB HAND THAT THEY WILL CATCH YOU ONE DAY......................